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Liberalism vs Libertarianism
(lemmy.ml)
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Afaik, liberalism ambiguously meant both advocacy for human rights and an economic system. To avoid this confusion, the economic system has been moved out as libertarianism.
For example, accessibility improvements of government buildings is a liberal movement.
Minimizing the control over capitalism is a libertarian movement.
There's also so called "liberals" which is not more than a hate speech. We are not "conservatives" or "liberals" in every topic.
Liberalism is a reaction to feudalism. It aims for systems of governments that maintain:
Libertarianism originated as a term for anarchists, but now roughly means conservatives. Libertarianism attempts to bifurcate something which it calls "the Market" from "the State".
This is simply not true. This is not how libertarianism originated, and the imagined bifurcation of economic state and governmental state is extremely modern.
The Americans with Disabilities Act, signed by the George H.W. Bush, is a mechanism of welfare reform which established a tort system of accessibility. The bill used cost-burden language to remove people with disabilities from public assistance and require them to individually litigate for accessibility via the court system. Please review any congressional testimony on the bill.
Both movements are capitalist. Governmental regulatory frameworks provide reliability and transparency for resolving disputes between capitalist actors. What do you mean by "control over capitalism"?
You've scare-quoted so many of the relevant words that it's hard to understand what you mean.
Whatever I read, libertarianism is originated from classical liberalism.
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I mean, this is how I see it: Modern liberalism was too different from classical liberalism, so libertarianism had to have a different name for their classical liberal believes.
Lmao no, they're not "classical liberals". is this bait?
Of course they extended it with minimal state. But how I understand it, they are very similar.
In contrast, modern liberalism is more like how EU works with its big tech regulations. This is in contrast with the classical free market ideology. Market is not fully free under modern liberalism, because everyone sees its injustice.
Also modern liberalism is interested in social justice like LGBTQ, while the classical is not.
Am I incorrect?
Yes, you are incorrect for dozens of reasons and using multiple terms incorrectly.
this is us-american domestic politics brainrot
please ignore any us-american terminology and concepts. both so-called "conservatives" and "liberals" in the usa are liberals. "libertarians" are also liberals. politics in the usa are so skewed to the right compared to the rest of the planet that you think all these are fundamentally different political ideologies, but they're merely fringes of the same one. in the end, they ultimately defend private property, imperialism, and us-american hegemony. republicans and democrats act on behalf of the same interests, they just mold their presentation to appeal to different demographics