109
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2024
109 points (89.2% liked)
News
23669 readers
3343 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
This just seems like a staunch refusal to listen to anything that doesn't reflect your tribalistic beliefs. You keep attempting to write these people off as not worthy of "our" time because you suspect they're part of the "out group" and racists which is why they voted for Trump.
The world isn't that simple and you're only causing division and a loss of support with puritanical beliefs such as this and the fact that you bring up "total number of visits to Wayne County Michigan" as a metric for how well each candidate connected with Muslims in America shows that you're on no sort of moral highground as you're boiling down a whole diverse population of people into a simple geographical statistic. This is dehumanizing and evokes other mildly racist, out-of-touch behaviors from the campaign such as: In outreach to Black men, Harris to vow to legalize weed, protect crypto
All voters are worthy of our time. But Trump's victory demonstrates that the American electorate, and Palestinian-Americans in particular, have moved further to the right since 2020. To the point that the staunchest supporter of Israel can win most demographics.
Democrats will have to grapple with this when formulating new policies. The only "tribalism" comes those who look at 2024 and imagine voters moved to the left.
EDIT:
As for Wayne County, I was responding to "Trump interacted a lot more with Arab voters". There is no evidence of that.
Wayne County visits are admittedly an imperfect metric of interaction, so if you have some better comparative metric then I'd love to see it.
I disagree that the electorate moved to the right in 2024. Trump got almost the same number of votes as he did in 2020 while Harris lost something like 10 million votes because she spent more time trying to court the right than caring about anyone left of "moderate" Republicans. Certain demographics may have shifted slightly but again the totals speak for themselves and it could just as easily be her pushing people away than Trump attracting them.
The DNC itself has been moving further and further right and it keeps costing them elections because the people that they're supposed to represent are sick and tired of being ignored in favor of the powerful and wealthy, yet they refuse to do anything about it even though they can see the result of this strategy over and over again just like the rest of us.
There is no evidence that this is the reason she lost voters.
But there is evidence that a significant number of Biden 2020 voters switched to Trump this year. That's the definition of a shift to the right.