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Re-Elected in a Landslide
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Except I was referring specifically to the claims that the only thing that mattered was anyone besides trump. But since you want to go back further:
Go back one more candidate and you have Obama...
We won that because Obama had charisma and people like him.
Before that Gore and Kerry, both uncharismatic but were definitely qualified in every other way, both lost.
Before that was Bill, also insanely charismatic...
So going back to 92, about 30 years:
Charismatic Dem candidates:
4/4
Uncharismatic Dem candidates:
1/5
Does this help?
Do you understand why the most important metric when picking a presidential candidate is charisma?
Quick edit:
For bonus points both Bill and Obama were criticized in their primary by political establishment and mainstream media that they were too young and didn't have the experience...
It didn't appear to hurt them in the elections.
Just a small note that Al Gore did win the election. He got ratfucked by Roger Stone et al in Florida. The governor of Florida happened to be his opponent's brother. And Gore folded like a card table with his high road Democrat bullshit.
Gore was told by the party they didn't have his back, so it was down to him and his campaign that had just spent all it's money.
There 100% should have been a fight for it, although from what I recall it wasn't 100% Gore did actually win it. There was 100% shady shit, but at least what was found out was legal shady shit.
But Gore wasnt what the DNC wanted in a candidate anyways, and they were unwilling to spend the political capital on the fight. I think the literal capital too, they may have refused to pay for the recount?
This has been looked into though:
https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/31/politics/bush-gore-2000-election-results-studies/index.html
So Gore could have won, but he didn't challenge the right thing and still would have lost the recount that wasn't completed
But if the DNC had backed him like the RNC backs their candidate (regardless of who it is) they could have challenged both and Gore would have been the candidate.
Good points. I don't think the Republicans would have stopped the counts if they thought they were going to win. I'm firmly certain that he won, and they were tossing Gore votes during the hand count due to absolute bullshit. Remember hanging chads?
Did you read the link?
What makes you more confident in your opinion then what they found?
Because this is who they had working on it:
And if you on your own are better than Al that, well, if you're not already in auditing professionally then you need to be.
Well I'm better than everybody so of course I'm better than all those hacks. Seriously though, thanks. I concede.