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Idiocracy.
Birth rates are down everywhere and the majority of the people left making lots of babies are not the ones you wish would be having them. Being virtuous and on the "right side of history" means nothing if those values die with you and are not passed to the next generation.
Why not?
People more or less adopt their values from their parents and the people they grow up with. The christian right and redneck hillbillys are making kids and thus their beliefs will carry over to the next generation but this is much less the case with the liberal left where not having children is much more common. Basically, the more educated you are the less likely you're to have kids. This is true all over the world.
I understand how it isn't passed on to the next generation. But I don't see how that implies that being virtuous means nothing.
I’ll admit I was exaggerating a bit. I don’t think it literally means nothing, but I’m sure you get the point I’m trying to make: for a long-term beneficial impact, good ideas need to spread from person to person faster than the bad ones do.
Found the eugenicist
This is not the first time i've seen sentiments similar to this around here. Just know this is an extremely elitist and racist viewpoint, and is one of the core arguments in favor of eugenics.
I don't see what's elitist or racist about it. It's just an observation of how things are. I'm not advocating for anything here.
Fair enough, apologies, didn't mean to imply you were advocating for the viewpoint of others i have seen making similar statements, that we need to "do something about it", which is generally rooted in white privilege and the belief that declining birth rates are leading to the collapse of civilization.
It depends on an individual's scope of experience.
Black and Latino families are historically much larger than white Anglo families.
But then poor white conservative families also tend to pump more out than centrist or left-leaning families.
But looking purely at the numbers It does put more marks on minority families.
If I recall correctly, White will become the minority in somewhere around 2035. But it'll take a lot longer for the rural whites to be in the minority in their rural areas.
While I might wish for growing population in those with similar political leanings, we need to move more of the growth toward those who can/will take care of kids. We need more growth in people with good moral character who value education and hard work
The funny thing is
This immigration story works for my ancestors a century ago as well as people I currently know following the same pattern in the modern world
A eugenist pov would defend selecting human individuals based on their genetic makeup, something people have no control over and is effectively a prejudice. Idiocracy shows the degeneracy of society based on societal factors such as disinformation, wealth, etc. and is an accurate prediction of western society's current state (specifically US, but is also valid in part for US-aligned nationstates such as France). My guess as a layman is there is some inverse statistical correlation between political knowledge and babymaking, but as we know, correlation isn't causation, and if there is anyone to blame, it's the bourgeoisie. Cut some heads in time for spring, they'll regrow better