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Churches close their doors as fewer Americans attend
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So you're saying we should have more boardgaming conventions?
I'm all in on that proposal.
Or convert them to crack houses.
Missed you at the latest city council meeting. See you at the next one!
Most of the council members have a restraining order against me.
Not conventions. A convention requires paying for a convention space, and that requires making attendees pay for admittance or getting sponsors to pay in their stead so they can sell products. That's not community.
The power of churches is they are entirely free and not commodified. That's what makes them communal. We'd need something like a communal boardgame hall, supported by donations that anyone can come to without needing to pay anything.
If they belong to a denomination, that's absolutely not true. If they don't, they're nearly all fundie evangelicals whose independence is solely financial, since they all believe essentially the same bullshit, and any "community" they have consists of enforcing toxic social norms and conformity to antidemocratic ideals. Good riddance. You want community, reopen bowling allies, small music venues and community dive bars.
i.e. places you need to spend money
Indeed, it's a real quandary. The current choices for "public" spaces have mostly been a choice between religion or commerce.
If only there were more truly public spaces for people to congregate that were neither. Where just congregating and just doing something together (or alone, but among others in the same building) was not considered a criminal act ("loitering").
I think about this a lot. And yes, for things like board games and other meetups. A well lit, warm, safe space for people to meet in public, and without having to engage in commerce. Without having to profess a belief in some creed.
Where I live, the library serves this purpose. They even have advertised game nights for various age groups on weekly to monthly basis. Maybe reach out to your public library and see if they would host.
That sounds amazing. We have nothing like that here.
Do you mean that you have no library, or the library doesn't have a game night? If the latter, you could try to start it; it'd just be a matter of getting their permission to use the space, setting a schedule, and putting up a sign. It might not take off immediately; it'd probably help if you brought a friend or two the first few times, but if there's interest in your community, I bet folks would start coming once it became clear something was happening.
I mean my local library has, like, six tables and 10 book shelves. My town has 1200 people. What you're talking about isn't realistic.
All I'm getting at is, you have this - it's the library. If you have the population to support a boardgame hall, you have the population to support a gathering at the library. Even if this doesn't apply to you, it surely applies to other people who might not have considered the possibility.
Libraries are quiet spaces, I have no clue what you're talking about.
My library has board game rentals, multiple meeting rooms, and maker spaces with 3d printers, sewing machines, and other equipment along with the traditional rooms of books for different ages and interests. You can have social spaces within a library, it doesn’t all have to be silent.
Sure, and I mean, I'm not suggesting you just roll up at random with a trunk full of board games and set up shop. You talk to the library staff, arrange a time when they're okay with you using the space and being a little louder, and advertise that time. It feels like you're being argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative; in towns and cities with actual, functional communities, this is a normal thing. Heck, I grew up in a town with 1700 people in it; we had scheduled special events in the library and it was never a problem, so this isn't just exclusive to big cities.
You have an antiquated idea of what a library is.
This is a modern library: https://lemmy.world/post/21386043
Seconded. This would be far more productive than a religion with an obvious agenda/motive, you could build real communities without ties to guilt, tithing, less freedom, etc.
I like the way you think!
I think you don't understand "Free". They weren't free.
Use required, at the very least, selling your soul. But more pragmatically, a flat 10% tax- which frequently funded ostentatious lifestyles of the priests and pastors; and sacrificing your children to pedos.
But sure. It created "community"...
But since souls aren't real it was free.
Tithes are voluntary. Taxes are enforced at the tip of a sword or the barrel of a gun. Quiet different.
I think they meant soul as in personhood or however you want to put it, its metaphorical speech ya pedant.
Secondly tithes are socially enforced to what degree depends on what group we are talking about but at minimum there is an expectation that you pay it, you also get fuck all out of it making it a completely empty transaction unlike taxes which gives roads, fire departments, libraries, et cetera.
Okay, but they did get something out of it. They got the Church, and the services it provided them. We can replace that with tax funded secular institutions, but it doesn't seem like that's happening.
Instead the church dies and nothing replaces it.
Around here the churches require you to submit your personal finances so that they can tell you how much you need to tithe in order to attend services.
What the actual fuck lol‽
I remember my roommate telling me his fiance was running around the house looking for the checkbook just before church. She was beside herself. He was like, WTH, I have cash if you cannot find it, we'll just throw that in the plate. She was like, "NO, they track the amount, it has to be a CHECK."
He was nominally Protestant, and she was Catholic. He was quite taken aback by this rather grotesque practice...these days, do they have a QR code to scan and take cash apps? I think I can guess the answer...
Boardgaming congregations, then.
Honestly a community hall that fills similar roles to the library as others mention would be awesome. You could get people running community brunches on weekends, you could get holiday parties and rooms for groups to meet. You could use it to host food not bombs or other food giveaways. You could let it be what churches are supposed to be, but replace the pastor and pews with a meal space and some administrators
Hell yeah, my wife won't play Arcs with me. I fully support more board gaming.