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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

Valve running an illegal underage casino

Valve doesn't run the casino. Valve owns the real estate under the casino and collects a rent. The casino is run by a kaleidoscope of fly-by-night marketing firms after being constructed with sweatshop labor from development studios in countries with abysmal labor laws.

Turns out, it takes very few employees to be the landlord of a casino. But the casino can't make money without a battalion of scammy sales shits and a legion of cheap construction workers. Valve can't make money without these workers. But because it collects rents on the real estate rather than revenues on the casino itself, it doesn't need to include these staffers in its accounting books.

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Valve is directly responsible for skins in Counter Strike which are gotten with 100% gambling mechanics. The fact that they can be sold for real life cash adds to this. I'm not saying its only Valve doing this, plenty of other games on Steam as well, but they certainly have a horse in the race.

[-] Saryn@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Agreed, we should not make it seem like Valve has no responsibility just because it doesn't directly own the casinos, gambling sites, etc. They benefit financially from the way the whole system is set up and they know it. Every round and transaction directly benefits Valve financially. The more underage people get addicted to the casino system they have going on, the more money Valve gets.

I mean, who made the GUI a copy of a slot machine?

They could end this whole thing tomorrow if they wanted to.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 5 days ago

I watched my cousin get suckered by one of those a few years ago.

£50 Steam voucher in, fuck all out. Hooray for letting 14 year olds gamble their Christmas presents away...

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Lets hope your cousin learned his lesson then.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago

He seems to have done. I think he's a trainee accountant now and plays crown green bowling.

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

The government need to get involved and relegate MTX. I agree they are responsible for hosting the platform and developing the systems in the case of CS skins. It's ugly but Valve are behaving as a rational business actor in this scenario.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

With Trump in office soon you can forget about regulation.

And in any case, it's tech-adjacent so legislators have zero idea how any of this works.

[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

The EU and Australia seem to be inching towards serious legislation relating to MTX. Hopefully they can serve as an example.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I’m specifically talking about CS:GO, which is the most predatory and developed by Valve to be so.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

CS:GO, which is the most predatory

Plenty of Gacha Games are more predatory than CS:GO. Valve is happy to host them all. CS:GO is a big money maker precisely because it has a large and enduring user base that isn't fixated on Pay2Win game mechanics. Compare that to SummonerWars or Diablo Immortal or even just Candy Crush. There's no contest.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago

It’s not just the tactics that make it the most predatory. It’s the massive platform and promotion that it gets by being a valve product.

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