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[-] Sestren@lemmy.world 113 points 4 days ago

Gnome does some questionable things, and some are just personal preference, but there is at least one thing that they do that makes zero sense regardless of how you use your system...

The AppIndicator extension SHOULD be default. There is no reason for it to be an extension other than pure stubbornness. There are applications that literally require it in order to function at all.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 4 days ago

That you need an extension to disable the overview at startup still boggles my mind and the arrogance of the developers in the thread that started it didn't lessen my antipathy for Gnome at all.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Why wouldn't you want the overview at startup?

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 days ago

Because there is nothing to overwiew yet, obviously.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It provides easy access to search. I understand now though why you wouldn't want it to open automatically (if you have startup programs you want to see instead).

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

actually, i just want to click one of my pinned panel favorites, but yeah, no need for search basically.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 days ago

In my case because I have my PC connected to the TV and Steam starting automatically in big screen mode. But according to the devs I'm doing it wrong and should get used to it because it's the better experience when I can go and grab my keyboard to start typing the name of the program I want to start.

Because you already set firefox to autostart

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago

Default the cursor to the Search field on a Save dialog is possibly the absolute fucking stupidest thing ever.

[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I love GNOME and everytime I tried an other DE I came back to GNOME. But the cursor in the search field is annoying and incomprehensible…

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I'll be honest, I could probably use Gnome if I had to, with a few addons. But when I try it, the second I get to that dialog and it does that, I just shut it down and install something else. To me, it just epitomizes the contempt the developers have for the users, that it continues to exist after this long.

[-] Unbecredible@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

I'm triggered. Why would you even mention that.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 20 points 4 days ago

I think the lack of a system tray in gnome is a case of perfect of being the enemy of good.

https://youtu.be/ejqNCbE42cg

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's a new Wayland protocol that probably will land in the next gnome release. The new protocol is supported by KDE and other desktops as well.

The reason that it was removed is because it is extremely hacky and bad. There have been talks within the project to just reads support since the extension got so many downloads but the new API is better anyway

[-] Sestren@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Their solution to a problem is to pretend like it doesn't exist simply because it will go away in the future? It's a reason, but it isn't a good one.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

I won't disagree with you there. They should've had a replacement before deprecating it. In there defense there was a alternative being developed but it ended up stalling over disagreements between KDE and gnome. The whole thing is a dumpster fire honestly. I'm glad they are cleaning it up. KDE and Gnome want the same thing for the most part they just kept getting into pointless bickering.

[-] flavonol@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Would you mind providing a link or the name of the new protocol?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

ext-tray-v1 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/355

There's no reason to expect GNOME to implement it, and I'm surprised they haven't NACKed it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago

It literally was developed by gnome. The merge request is coming from a gnome developer.

You don't have to like gnome but it is silly to try to gate keep over it.

"I understand that some compositors have no interest in allowing clients to show arbitrary content in tray areas. GNOME, for example, doesn't even have a tray area and it is my understanding that they believe that even the current SNI protocols allow clients too much freedom. Such compositors should not implement this protocol."

--the page you're referencing, by the creator of the protocol

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Which I find to be a weird stance.

Gnome also believes that a window must have control over its own titlebar to draw it as it sees fit while simultaneously declaring it must not have control over a tray icon.

Also funny that Gnome seems to have objected to KDE proposal and wrote their own even though they seem to say point blank that while they are dictating how all the other DEs will do it, they themselves will be ignoring it. Why get in the business of a protocol you don't even want to implement in the first place...

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