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El Salvador closes 2024 with a record low number of homicides
(abcnews.go.com)
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Easy when you toss people into a pit without due process. I wonder what the percentage is of innocent people rotting in those inhumane prisons they built. Not to mention that those prisons and form of justice will eventually be turned towards the next batch of "undesirables" in no time. Including his political opponents. This president can wear a backwards hat and act like he's a man of the people, but he's a wealthy nepo oligarch.
Edit: you're a fool if you think this guy isn't hiding the real numbers
He could be hiding the numbers, but the drop is near an order of magnitude from the peak.
Killings by police officers per 10 million population:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers
That's number is Venezuela's. El Salvador is 1703.8. Note the data is from 2017, 2 years before Bukele became president.
Thank you for the correction, much appreciated.
And yes, I am aware that it's older data, but given that Bukele's moves as president have consisted entirely of even harsher policing, I sincerely doubt that that number has gone lower.
Could it be that that number came from active warfare with the gangs (which have now been neutered)?
Syria's numbers are literally from an active civil war, and they're half of El Salvador's.
So no, I don't really feel like that holds water as a justification. Valid as context, yes, but there's still no good reason for the number to be that high.
Also "Our country is really peaceful now that we've run out of people for cops to kill" doesn't exactly sound like a paradise to me.
Yes, it's why Bukele is popular. But we shouldn't be holding it up as something to emulate.
Doesn't that make their numbers immediately questionable? Especially since what level of policing do you even have during a civil war
What it means in this case is that you've got open warfare between the police and a large segment of the populace. Not unlike your premise that the numbers from El Salvador are the result of, effectively, open warfare between the police and the gangs.
Neither countries numbers are any more or less questionable than the other's. Take from this what you will.
I'd say in Syria it was more militants and militaries doing the warfare rather than police, but that's just my gut feeling, the police's involvement might've been larger than I think
Read the source. It specifically notes that the numbers from Syria are exceptionally high because they are in the context of an active civil war.
No
Afaik the USA does not release official statistics for this because individual police precincts refuse to cooperate.
Oh brother... so, what do you suggest? Go back to the old ways? How about we ask the majority of Salvadorians what they think?
When you say "the majority of Salvadorioans" are you including those who are currently imprisoned? If not, then it’s just a matter of imprisoning everyone who disagrees with those in charge…