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10 arrested for writing gay erotica in China as part of nationwide crackdown
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Tankies boutta call every single person whos gay on this earth a capitalist pig...
Tankies don't ever show up in these threads because they know this is indefensible.
most tanky positions are indefensible. and yet, they try to defend them anyways.
Nah, they're just over at the crosspost thread: https://lemmy.ml/post/24456592
Their main point is that, as the article states, erotica is outlawed whether it's gay or not. They weren't 'arrested for writing gay erotica', they were arrested for writing erotica. Obviously that's also a controversial position, but it's a very different one to the false homophobic position implied by the headline.
That thread is fucking depressing. Glad I blocked that instance. Also the tankies are, as usually, trying to defend the CCP because they have 95% approval rates in their rigged elections, so the people, according to them, support the government, and at the same time stating that the Chinese youth is more progressive and opposes the government actions.
This are some very interesting mental gymnastics.
to be clear the 95% approval rate has nothing to do with their elections and comes from a harvard study. If anything a study from harvard is likely to be biased against the approval rate being high, no?
Furthermore I have seen no evidence that their elections are rigged, you might have it, that would be very useful for me, could you provide it?
I will look into the approval rates and the mentioned study(I think I found which one you meant) later this day. However in terms of elections its quite easy.
China has a one party political system. This means, that there is no opposition. All members that may get elected to any position are picked by the CCP. All elections must adhere to the ruling of the CCP. The ruling of the CCP is part of the Chinese constitution.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China
This doesn't sound the slightest like a free democratic election. Also you have to take into Account, that The CCP controls everything, including propaganda. I havent found that much about manipulated elections in china(search engines suck nowadays), but will look into it later too.
How is this different from not allowing political parties at all, which is what the founding fathers of the US wanted, exactly?
I'm not arguing with you because i'm pro-china, I just don't think that argument would land on someone who was pro-china. Furthermore that's not evidence that the elections are rigged, i'm looking for evidence of poll-tampering, y'know, clear signs that the people did not choose which candidate won.
What is the process the CCP uses for choosing these delegates? I can't find any information on that, that would be useful to have, i've been looking around for quite a while, articles have been unhelpful.
Can't this easily be said about the US with the whole electoral college thing?
Pretty sure the founding fathers of the U.S. didn't want presidents for life.
...I never claimed they did?? They factually however, did not want fighting between political parties.
China doesn't have presidents for life, they hold elections every five years.
I think you are a little behind the times.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-43361276
Term limits being removed doesn't mean they don't hold elections every 5 years... The US didn't even start out with term limits.
They hold elections regularly in Russia too. Who do you think always gets re-elected every time?
Also, who runs against you in a one-party state? Who would even dare run against Xi?
These elections are known to be rigged and you can easily find evidence that they are. I'm asking for evidence like this about China. You seem very confident about this, so, you must have some easily sourced evidence, no?
??? everyone, because that's how having one party works, everyone is part of the same party. One party doesn't mean one candidate. It's no different than if parties were abolished.
Why would someone bother running against an extremely popular incumbent?
Oh, so you mean he's president for life.
Yeah, in the same way that Franklin D. Roosevelt was, because of his popularity.
I support term limits but this ain't the argument you think it is.
Are you under the bizarre impression that no one ran against FDR? Because otherwise, that's a completely different situation than the "why would anyone bother" one you just presented.
FDR exists in a two-party state where two parties must run candidates every single time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_United_States_presidential_election
Look at the map... they might as well have not run.
There is no law saying that any party must run candidates or that there must only be two parties.
Is it that you are intentionally obfuscating or are you really that ignorant about how things work in the American political system?
I never said any such law exists. I don't know what point you're making... another candidate in the running that had no chance to win? Should I care that vermin supreme was also running?
What you really need to demonstrate is that the elections in china are rigged/unfair, that's the only way to really move forward in this conversation.
In order to do that you need one of two pieces of information:
Your words:
This is false. No party must run candidates.
And now you're claiming you didn't say what you just said, which makes me suspect you're just here to troll.
I really don't see why this matters at all. I feel like you're trolling me. I didn't mean must under threat, but must under tradition. Why do you care?
What you need to move this conversation forward is one of the following
If you can provide none of the previous i don't know why you're talking to me.
Yep. You're trolling. Maybe don't do that when you come back tomorrow.
The law itself is homophobic…
Which clause?
I'm learning more by the day that .world's issue with tankies is driven less by any of their actually problematic behavior than by this growing pseudo-mythos where users seem to treat them as a sort of online bogeyman. More often that not, I've seen "the tankies sure are going to hate this!" where no actual tankies ever appear. It's just lazy engagement, plus "tankies" becoming Lemmy-speak for "leftist who I disagree with (or challenges my preconceptions in a way that makes me uncomfortable)".
Checking out the comment thread, as of the time of this writing, I see one "but US bad too!" moron, a few .ml users with fairly reasoned responses (regardless of if I agree or not), and a few geniuses, including the OP there, looking to start shit and acting surprised when they're called out on it.
Seriously every thread it's the top comment, but there's never any actual tankies in the thread. I feel like I'm in the McCarthy 1950's whenever I'm looking through .world threads lol.
.world threads are far enough left that many of us would have been imprisoned under mccarthyism. Tankies do exist, which I know from interacting with them, and simping for authoritarian regimes is not leftism. Tankies don't challenge my preconceived notions any more than nazis... they just don't.
They exist but I only ever see them in ml threads, maybe like two or three, or other instances that .world isn't federated to but lemm.ee is (like Lemmygrad and hexbear). I haven't seen one in a .world thread since the defederation and yet it's still the top comment every time there's a thread on China or Russia.
Nah dude, didn’t you hear? Tankies off lemmy spoiled a whole US election
The extra sad thing is that China isn't even "tankie-socialist" anymore, much like how the Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.
Me, a chad communist China supporter: Mao was good actually
You, virgin president of China: in this house we stan Deng, and Marx was wrong about class