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this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2025
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I think the other thing that people need to remember is that when online on platforms like Lemmy, Twitter, etc, you aren't just having a one on one conversation. There are other people reading the exchange. People who would otherwise be allies, can still be alienated, even without anyone directly saying anything to them.
Also, there seems to be far too many people who are willing to let perfect be the enemy of good. If your opinions don't exactly match theirs, you are indoctrinated, evil, stupid, malicious, etc.
The social aspect is why I often continue engaging even when the other person is clearly acting in bad-faith, by maintaining a level-head I get boosted outreach to onlookers. Realistically, most people aren't going to change their minds over a Lemmy conversation, and if they are willing to be this usually shows in the first or second comment, but often engaging can show others and help outreach.
Debatebroism is bad and poor outreach, though, the focus should be on unity and not on dominating, hence the importance of humility.
Most people aren’t going to change their minds over a Lemmy conversation, but a significant number will change their minds over a bunch if conversations.
There's a Mao quote I can't find about how party members shouldn't presume they can change people's long-held political opinions with just a lecture or two. Deeply held beliefs by definition take a long time to change.
Yep, exactly. That's why it's good to have these conversations, but the manner and context matters a lot too. There's a good deal of nuance involved.