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Mozilla opposes Web Integrity API proposal
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this post was submitted on 25 Jul 2023
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Basically drm for your browser
Fuck that though
this is the most batshit insane proposal... I hope nobody supports it
if google microsoft and apple support it, that already covers over 90% of the market
Google alone is enough. Biggest browser, search engine, advertiser, OS and some of the biggest sites on the web all owned by them.
If they steamroll this thru, youll have an amazing anti trust case
Don't worry, people will certainly make bypasses for that shit
that’s exactly what people said with manifest V3 then all the sudden they were getting strikes on youtube for having their ad blocker on
And how well did that work out? I personally haven't gotten any strike on youtube, using uBlock/mpv on PC, Youtube Revanced on mobile and SmartTube for TV since forever
Also there's this https://invidious.io/. So yeah, it's just the classic cat & mouse game that has been going on for ever since software added drm
Google has already lashed out at Invidious though, and they'll keep trying
I agree that in most cases people can find workarounds, but I don't think we should take these things for granted
Google has no ground to stand on against Invidious
They may harass them but it'll be veeery difficult to chase down all instances
Oh, I'm well aware of that, but I also have little faith in the justice system to recognize this
In any case, it seems like a warning shot from Google and an interest in taking down sites like Invidious
I'm not trying to spread doubt, but I also think complacency is dangerous, especially given the history of corporate giants like Google
Steamrolling this change Forcing people to have an incredably invasive change to force you to use chrome or use googled android, or use googled chromebooks.
its incredably bright lines it would destablize trust in anything that agrees with it. If the amrican court doesnt prosecute. It will eather show the ignorance/lies in others or destablize amarican trust in the law.
We're talking about a public and justice system that mostly agreed the Patriot Act was a good idea and that ICE protects us from terrorism
Anyone who hasn't already lost trust in America and our law has been sleeping for decades
and what kinda of thing does this protect?
I'd guess it's first gonna be used for streaming TV shows and such. After that it'll probably be used for absurd things
I thought they were already being protected by DRM.
Kinda, but it doesn't work very well. Using video download manager you can download pretty much every video from the web
Malware, malware encrypts its code so researchers cant crack into it and antivirus cant anilize it. Google is accedentally sponsoring malware
Ads. To be precise this on it's own provides a way for servers to be certain of the environment the pages run (browser, plugins, os). Protecting ads or other functions come from servers refusing unattested configurations or configurations they don't like (i.e. running adblock, running firefox, running linux).
if chrome fully adapts this, this might well be a full blown commerical by chrome for people to switch to firefox. i have been only using chrome only to run our projects locally and test it out.
It should be noted that “being certain of the environment the pages run” requires controlling the client software being executed which requires preventing the user from modifying said executable which requires the browser to either be closed source or, more effectively, controlling the user's hardware via blackbox verification chips (e.g. TPM DRM). It's not just advertisers that would benefit but any website that wants to DRM content.