Can't believe I'm siding with the fucking pope

So, what's your preferred composting method?

Well, you've got great points.

And, here in the US, they're points that require extra scrutiny of any such situation.

That being said, Norway has done this kind of thing with incredible success, and not just remote work either. So the idea itself is most definitely one that merits a real attempt here too

Considering how damn low their recidivism rates are, that's a hell yes

I mean, it ain't wrong

Dad, is that you?

Ehhhh, depends on what you want to trust them with.

Dank memes and dad jokes, sure.

Communicating with a friend about something personal, I wouldn't.

It ain't my favorite either. But it's a popular song. I do doubt those exact sentenced were said, by virtue of being a little awkwardly phrased, but I have seen and heard people being happy to hear the song, or to use it as their first Christmas song as they verbiage celebrate the season.

Yeah, motherless is essentially roulette for trauma

Well, it depends on what you call a hitter.

Any time there's money offered, the chances of someone taking it are non zero. It's hoping to be lower on a platform like reddit, or even lemmy, but there are people out there willing to kill for money.

However, that's different from someone doing it regularly, which is still different from a "professional" or contract killer. The difference is largely in methodology and pricing.

You aren't going to get someone that's very skilled at subtle or reliable activity, because they wouldn't be responding via a public and security weak platform if that was the case.

Unless the platform reports it to a law enforcement agency, it's not going to be an automatic preventive, but it would indeed be a clear reason to make a report to authorities.

Hiring a killer randomly is pretty much asking to be arrested, or in the case of this question, shoved into a facility and held against your will for as long as is deemed necessary.

It's also a pretty damn low chance of success. Non zero, but low. Normally, when people want to hire a killer any way other than finding someone they already know and convincing them to do it, they'd have to know someone that knows someone.

You can find paid killers, if not serious professional killers, in most cities with gang/organized crime. The problem is that they aren't usually going to even talk to an outsider, and they definitely won't go DMing randos on reddit or whatever.

There's been reporters that have made contact with that kind of killer and interviewed them. But it isn't exactly a regular occurrence and there's no way to properly use any interviews as evidence in most situations. Actually discussing the possibility of taking the job is likely to be admissible, and damning.

Now, it's kinda funny you asked about going to a bar to look. While you aren't likely to be successful, and may end up getting hurt rather than killed, organized criminals do tend to have favourite bars, which also tend to be money laundering fronts from what I've been told. So, if you knew the right places, you'd be more likely to succeed than asking on a forum. Still not likely, but not impossible either.

As a tangent, I was recently watching a short documentary about a reporter trying to investigate the matter. Even with her contacts and easily verifiable identity, she only found one person in the US willing to talk to her, and that guy was pretty unbelievable. Seemed more like some gang banger playing at being tough. Especially when compared to the South African killer she interviewed. But both it those were still not going to be easy to make contact with. You have to be vetted, or it ain't happening

You assume cops need evidence lol.

Jokes aside, stings are the most common way it happens.

However, when it isn't something like that, it tends to fall into two groupings based on my limited area of awareness. Not a cop, not a lawyer, or anything related, and I can only guarantee this as factual in the areas I've lived.

The next biggest chunk of arrests after stings is warrants for places of business. Massage parlors, more blatant brothels. Once there's suspicion of illegal activity, they get a warrant an d raid the place. Catch them in the act, and then manipulate the people they take in into confessing.

After that, it's plain sight and/or hearing. While most of the street corner type of thing is gone in a lot of places, it isn't totally gone. All it takes is the discussion over prices and seeing the exchange to make an arrest.

Plus, some places will post up with listening gear or cameras in hot spots and capture evidence that way.

The kind of services that are less open get less raids. An escort service is usually harder to nail down than a massage parlor, which is harder than an outright brothel, which is harder than someone working out of a hotel or home. The really hard to catch prostitution is outcalls and incalls with independent sex workers.

Escorts don't do any transactions in the open, so you have to send in an undercover cop to fake being a john for individuals, or get enough probable cause to get a warrant for phone or other invasive surveillance when there's an office.

Massage parlors have that veneer of a massage business, and if they aren't doing it dumb, they can last years before police even know they exist in a big enough city.

Brothels, afaik, are pretty rare now because they're easier to target. Since they're really only serving sex, it's more obvious.

Solo workers tend to have to go out to find clientele, which is obvious enough to get attention. Kinda hard to advertise yourself enough to get clients without cops being able to tell, and then hassle the worker. If they're working out of a bar, it's a little easier to hide their intent, as long as the bar is okay with it. Some places take a cut to ignore it. One of the few regular bars I worked at had a couple of ladies that had made arrangements like that with the owner. Iirc, they were handing over ten percent and getting the benefit of being inside and not hassled as long as they didn't cause trouble.

At the titty bars I worked, some of the ladies would turn tricks with patrons. They only did it after their shift because the owner was not willing to fuck around and lose his licences over it. They'd get fired in a hot second if they did anything other than say they'd talk to the customer after their shift. None of them ever got caught. Hell, one of them turned tricks with a cop or two, which helped in that regard.

But, yah, the vast, vast majority of arrests are stings. It's low hanging fruit tbh. Why spend resources trying to get evidence other ways, when it works and keeps the segment of sex workers most likely to cause disturbances more limited? Escorts don't cause trouble usually. Massage parlors don't until they get too big and busy. They want the obvious hookers and blatant shops out of commission. If it isn't visible, it's lower priority.

Now, the sheriff of our county handles it very lightly. Pretty much all sex work out here in the boonies is drug related to begin with, so that's the key to keeping things controlled. Much, much easier to bust a prostitute for meth than for prostitution. So he's got an unofficial policy against targeting prostitution as its own thing. Which, that's its own problem, but he's kinda stubborn about drug policy other than weed.

There was a place that got busted in town a few years ago though. It was a ratty little place that was billed as a massage parlor. But all of the workers were addicts, so they were sloppy as hell. The lady on the phones was even stupid enough to discuss pricing for sex acts on the phone.

They do it on purpose. Makes you stay longer, increasing chances of extra sales