Don’t trust what people say from their individual stories. You need statistics of hundreds of cars, not single anecdotes. There must be sites that evaluate cars reliability, average spending on repairs and so on, model by model. Find those.
This is good advice in general.
But the answer to this question is extremely well known across the internet and every thread that comes up will eventually boil down to the same two responses: Toyota and Honda as 1 and 1a.
There isn't some secret answer to find, those are just the answers. People will definitely come up with anecdotes supporting various other cars, but as these threads hit a certain mass of replies they invariably boil down to those two choices.
They are not the flashiest cars, nor the most feature rich, nor the most efficient or most powerful. But if you want to buy a car that will just keep on running after years of minimal maintenance, often even after being abused during that time, a Toyota or Honda is what you should buy.
And their daughter brands. Lexus = Toyota, Acura = Honda. For when you want something flashy.
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/ is exactly that!
If you really want a long lasting machine, listen to this person. So much nose in this thread. For example: Subarus, in fact, do not have reputation for being long lasting without major repairs. Most people do not keep a vehicle for 10+ years nor for 300k miles. I have a vehicle that is older than that with 30% more miles. As said above, an anecdote.
Somebody keeps track of the cost of ownership over time. Perhaps a company, maybe a government agency.
Good luck!
The average car age in the EU is 12 years old. Even in richer member states the average is often over 10 years (germany: 10.1, Netherlands: 11.4)
So at least in that part of the world, most people absolutely do keep a vehicle for 10+ years.
Source: https://www.acea.auto/figure/average-age-of-eu-vehicle-fleet-by-country/
The average in the US is 12.5 years old.
I think people's impression of things is skewed because overall cars are much more reliable than they used to be. When I was a kid a car over 10 years old was something you expected to have issues, and certainly wanted to avoid buying. That's not the case these days, and the huge numbers of functional older cars on the roads make us not realize just how many old vehicles are out there because they're normalized.
My car is 15 years old, my wife's is 9. They're both perfectly fine and they don't feel old to us.
There must be sites that evaluate cars reliability, average spending on repairs and so on, model by model. Find those.
In the U.S., that would be Consumer Reports magazine, available at most public libraries.
Can't go wrong with Honda and Toyota. They are basically tanks that keep running even when you abuse them.
A Corolla or Camry's lifespan is measured in decades, not years. I occasionally just whisper "oil change" to my Corolla while driving and it makes happy engine noises and just keeps going. They might not be flashy and there's certainly cars out there with more features but if you're looking for a car that "just works" and you (almost) can't kill, get a Toyota.
Honda too I guess although I can't speak to them specifically.
Pretty much the only thing that will stop them is rust. They'll disintegrate long before the motors give up if taken care of properly.
Fully agree with Toyota and Honda with the exception of the 2019 and other same gen versions of the Honda Civic. There is a known defect with the air conditioning system that causes leaks even after repairs and results in a failed AC system. My brother has been plagued with this issue and unofficially Honda acknowledges it but will fight like hell to pretend it doesn’t exist.
My mechanic buddies all swear by Toyota, the Prius is rated the kind of car least likely to seen in a shop and pretty much any other Toyota is bullet proof.
Flipside, I will never own a Nissan. Worked at an auto auction for 6 months as an inspector. One thing that was hammered on us is check engine oil even before it went to the auctions mechanic for sludge. The reason it was hammered so hard is because it was a problem. Only with Nissans. In 6 months, hundreds of cars a day, Nissans were the only ones with the engine sludge issue.
I have had mazadas and toyotas run for decades with zero problems but they are also decades old and may not be reflective of the current quality of the cars. See: BMW and Mercedes. they used to be quality in the 20th century, now they are a bit shit.
+1 for Toyota Corolla
I've got -06 model with 225000km (140000mi) on the meter. Outside basic maintenance the only problem it has had was that the ABS timing ring snapped. It cost about 80€ at the local shop to clean the spot and weld it whole again.
I'm currently driving a company owned Toyota corolla Fielder, with a cool quarter million KMs on the clock, 260-something thousand to be exact.
Toyota have a legendary reputation for reliability, for good reason.
Honda. The answer is Honda.
Toyota Prius. I've seen people in central Asia rock mud and dirt trails with it, that most Westerners wouldn't dare to go on with their SUVs
You know what "Ford" stands for, eh?
Fix It Again, Tony.
But to add something to the conversation, my vote goes to Toyota and Honda.
Anecdotally: Had a 1999 Corolla that I drove into the ground, ignored oil changes, was a stupid teen, and it ran fine until I wanted automatic windows. Currently riding in a Nissan Altima, which seems to be pretty great (as long as the transmission doesn't fail, which they can do sometimes).
Parents had a Ford Eacort that was a lemon, and a Ford Escape that was a money-pit.
Flawed premise.
You don't care about brands generally, you only care about the car you buy specifically.
Every brand / model has good and bad cars. If you're unlucky enough to get a shit one, it doesn't really help you if people swear by that brand.
Just figure out the format (SUV, hatch, etc), then your budget, then buy the lowest kms you can.
Don't get a jeep! Ours developed a heart defect 2 weeks before we paid it off. Turns out, it's a known issue that Jeep just doesn't care about addressing because "loyal" owners will just replace it (meaning the whole engine), and often do.
Echoing this. Stay away from Jeeps
It’s not just Jeep, it’s any FCA/Stellantis vehicle with the 3.6L Pentastar engine. If you know it’ll develop a head gasket leak after 100K and replace it ($5K) before it does, you won’t have another problem with it. If you don’t, it’ll total the engine ($15K). Happened to me. I hope there’s a class action law suit honestly.
Toyota or lexus are most reliable, Honda (Acura) is a close 2nd. After that it isn't even close.
Yes ford's aren't all bad, especially their international designs are not bad.
After Toyota and Honda the reliable cars to buy are going to be specific models and specific years, you're going to have to find the many youtube mechanic commentary videos "buy this not that" and do your research.
It may be that rather than buying the most reliable vehicle you avoid buying one of the known worst vehicles. I've been there and now I own 2 Toyotas and a Honda.
And it goes without saying, before you buy anything have it inspected by an impartial mechanic you trust.
You will see that Toyotas cost a lot more than other cars. It's because the cheaper cars end up costing thousands more in the long run because of the many repairs you're going to have to do. Pay now or pay later.
Honda and Toyota last forever. Incredibly reliable cars.
I am not native and wanted to say I always swear on SUVs, Pickups and unnecessarily loud or stupid cars.
Dont get one of those, please.
I swear near BMWs, some day they will ship with a turn signal included.
My Honda Civic is 12 years old. I just put new shocks and tires on and it feels like it's brand new. The thing is rock solid. It's needed very little work beyond maintenance for normal wear and tear.
Honda, Toyota, Subaru. Specific models with high sales and as such high parts availability. I'd avoid new models or low sales. It'll be harder to pick-n-pull parts. The prius claims to be low maintenance and I believe it based on experience. Most issues I've had with those brands have been fixable and not too soul crushing. Even the worst prius issue i ever had with a stuck coolant valve I was able to fix myself wigh youtube vids.
Of course this comes with the caveat that you take care of your vehicle. Don't drive like a moron being harsh on it, perform regular maintenance at proper intervals, do your fluid and filter checks and changes, don't swing for only cheap products, use full synthetic oil when you can. Use higher quality oil, air, cabin, etc filters within reason. Follow the manual. Set maintenance reminders for yourself. Don't add unnecessary performance mods. Don't go to jiffy lube. Be skeptical of mechanics that will screw up your car. Check their work when you can, or do it all yourself. If your car allows it, use better fuels.
Reliable doesn't equal zero maintenance or zero cost.
On that note. Michelin tires are worth it. Cheap tires are cheap and get replaced more. Tire performance under braking is perhaps the most important safety feature. I've never been disappointed by Michelin for performance, safety, or life. Worth every penny every time.
By the way, if you want some fun, go to the car dealer area of your town on random days and check out their service departments. I laugh every time I see places like Hyundai packed in the waiting room.
Toyota and Honda are the most depends and reliable. There's a reason they hold value the way they do. I have a Toyota Highlander and Honda Odyssey both over 250k miles, still running like champs.
Toyota Landcruiser with the straight 6 1hdfte engine. Plenty of power comes in several different models of car. Unfortunately because of their unparalleled reliability they are expensive and Toyota discontinued making the engine due to emissions.
I have seen these engines go over 1million kms as they are bassed of the original 1hz engine which was really bullet proof but lacked in power.
Depending on where you live, you might be able to consider not getting a replacement. Public transportation and cycling is vastly superior if the infrastructure is available. Costs less, keeps you healthier, better for the environment, less noisy cities, more flexible, etc etc.
Check to see if there's a recall repair.
Recall repairs go beyond the warranty.
If your city plan allows for it, I swear by no car. Cars are expensive, and if you don't need a car for your daily errands and your commute, it may be help to consider ditching it altogether and go by bike and bus/train. After all, you don't need to worry about paying for & maintaining a car if you don't have one and the responsibility for keeping your ride rolling is handled by the business. And a plain bicycle takes almost no maintenance and runs on whatever you had for breakfast.
Of course, if you live in a place like Florida or Texas or Ontario outside of central Toronto, you're fucked.
I drive a 2008 Honda Accord. I refuse to give it up because of how dependable it is. The best features of the this car is the electric heated seats and it’s dependability. knock on wood I’ve yet to encounter any major issues within its entire life span. I’m keeping her until she quits on me.
In fact, instead of putting money towards a new car I’m going to invest in her body and interior. I can’t stand what new cars seem like these days.
Toyota Camry or Corolla. If you just need transportation that you can rely on to start every morning without requiring major repairs all the time, these are your best options. Honda Accord or civic if you just like Honda better
If those are too boring buy something else from either Toyota or Honda.
I have personally seen double digit numbers of these vehicles go north of 200k miles and multiple over 300k miles with little more than basic maintenance. Some of them were outright abused with maintenance not done, driven with no oil, in accidents, etc. They just keep on ticking. These are individual anecdotes that should be taken as such but I encourage you to read others' accounts as well. My experience is not unique at all. I'm convinced you have to actively kill these cars. I live in the rust belt and I am quite sure that the bodies of our Toyotas will completely disintegrate before the engines give out. All I do is follow the maintenance plan in the manuals.
This is not to say you don't get small issues, or maintenance items. You still have to replace brakes, tires, etc. We had random minor issues with the interiors. But they always started and did their best to get us from point A to point B.
Hondas and Toyotas are expensive but last well. If you’re in the PNW, look at a suburu so you can blend in if you need to commit a crime. Seriously, if the police are looking for a green suburu outback in Washington they might as well be looking for every Starbucks.
Toyota and Honda have the reputation for being the most reliable. I would add Subaru to the list as well out of my personal experience.
Although, I think the best investment a car owner can make is a basic set of tools and the time to learn to do repairs/maintenance yourself. I started by doing my own oil changes and, at first, it wasn't cheaper at all with needing to buy the tools, but in the years since I think I've become quite a handy mechanic and have saved tens of thousands by doing everything myself. There are repair videos online for virtually everything so it's pretty easy to get started with basic stuff and work your way up from there as needed for your car.
Then toyota and honda are your best bet. Change the oil a little earlier than recommended and they will last 300k miles.
Pickup owners shit on the Honda Ridgeline and call it "not a truck", meanwhile their big manly Rams and F-250s live their lives in pure "mall crawler" mode.
The Ridgeline just quietly outlasts all those trucks and does all the furniture hauling and jetski towing that a homeowner needs. And the in-bed trunk (with drain plug!) is a tailgating champ.
Toyota Yaris, most reliable car ever in my eyes
Honda and Toyota. But since we bought 1 Honda we now own 3. I buy the Honda oil filters in 10 packs. Our van has over 300,000 and still drives ok.
All of the cars have been Fords because I always heard they were generally dependable and cheap to repair/upkeep, but so far they have all failed me.
I personally would never buy another Ford for many reasons, reliability being one of the main ones. Actually, after all the bad experiences with cars I have had, I would probably never buy another American car unless something dramatically changed.
Toyotas or Hondas are what you want if you want reliable and cheap repairs. That said, they hold their value very well because of their reliable reputation, so even getting a used one is still going to be quite expensive. My wife and I bought a used Toyota Corolla 5-ish years ago and couldn't happier. We've needed to make the occasional repair, overall the car has not cost us much.
corolla/camry is the car for you
If you can afford one, get a Subaru. They have a well-deserved reputation as being one of the longest lasting brands. In addition they are great driving cars, particularly under bad conditions. Finally, they have an amazing safety record.
That last item is not a casual one for me. I was T-Boned in the center of my front passenger door by a car going over 50 mph. My Outback rolled twice and only stopped because the roof hit the side of a van. I can remember my head bouncing off the curtain airbag as the pavement went rolling by. The car was thoroughly destroyed, except for the passenger compartment, which was intact (even the door that took the hit). My passenger and I were both unhurt.
The paramedics who examined us were more than a little surprised. They said they were expecting at least head and neck injuries. Instead, I had a minor bruise on the outside of one knee. That was it. We didn't even have headaches.
I replaced my totaled Outback with a newer one. My friend bought one too, the following year. I expect to drive Subarus for the rest of my life.
I get shitbox Toyotas for under a couple grand and run them into the ground. Whatever maintenance I can afford.
I don't trust cars nor roads nor drivers
Toyota/Lexus or Honda.
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