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[-] BillDaCatt@kbin.social 186 points 1 year ago

I think instead of saying "nobody is paying attention" it would be better to say that this kind of rhetoric makes him unfit to serve in any capacity.

His attempted insurrection has disqualified him from holding any elected office. He should not be on the ballot in any State. The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 69 points 1 year ago

The only news we should be reading is about him being behind bars, but unfortunately it seems he'll die before that ever happens

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

You and his dad have something in common.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

His dad had a large part in creating him, and not just physically.

Imagine if your father gave you money for everything but zero love and compassion?

Dad begat a son who is even worse than dad ever was.

[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago

By "nobody is paying attention" do they mean it's been plastered all over the news?

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

And that his fans are paying full attention and eating up every word?

[-] youngGoku@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Yeah people are paying attention they love it. And the rest of us are paying attention and are disgusted.

The only people not paying attention are the Republican voters who don't care who the candidate is and just vote Red no matter what.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

People are paying attention, but most people aren't taking it anywhere near seriously enough. It's the equivalent of seing an armed nuclear warhead and thinking pistol.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Many are taking it seriously, hence why there are so many posts about it here on lemmy and Reddit and other left leaning social medias. The problem is that his followers like his nazi rhetoric.

The nazi on The Boys was right “people like what I have to say, they just don’t like the word nazi”, although many Americans don’t even have that problem sadly…

[-] marx2k@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What does taking it seriously enough look like?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure exactly, but treating him as just another politician like the media is? That ain't it.

He's a cult leader at the head of a fascist uprising in the most powerful country in the world and most journalists are acting like it's pretty much business as usual.

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[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 73 points 1 year ago

I've been saying it since 2015 so if you haven't noticed, that's on you.

[-] burliman@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s so crazy how obvious it was in 2015 too.

It had me wondering one day after hearing the umpteenth Trump supporter sing his praises… Do you think an appreciable number of people like you saw the same obvious things about Mussolini and Hitler before their rises? Do we have some advantage now having seen these people before in the last 100 years? Do we have more casual access to information and history, so it’s more obvious to us now?

Or is it this: They, like us, had simply not done enough to prevent their rise? Is it really “on you” or is it on all of us?

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 20 points 1 year ago

I had history classes on both the rise of fascism and propaganda so it was definitely fresh in my mind while watching it happen. Many places don't teach these things though so it's not surprising to me really. I don't really see how there's anything we can do to prevent stupid people from being exploited, except through education. Can't teach someone who isn't willing to learn though.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago

Everyone is paying attention. His opponents are horrified, and his fanbase is eating it up.

What do you want to have happen? SPLC to declare the RNC a hate group? Because that's never going to happen...

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 63 points 1 year ago

Remember when the GOP collectively lost its mind when they were called deplorable.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The conservatives I worked with delighted in it. They called themselves deplorables for years. When someone tells you they are evil, believe them.

[-] ares35@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

four of them were stung by the truth, the rest didn't even know what the word meant.

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[-] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

People are paying attention, unfortunately a lot of them like that he's increasingly Nazi

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 56 points 11 months ago

“Nobody is paying attention”

Meanwhile every article you read and every political meme depicts him as a Nazi. No, I think we are well aware of what he is, dude.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know that interview with Kanye and Alex Jones where Yedolf starts saying a bunch of Nazi shit and Alex tries to coach him on how to dogwhistle it, but Mr Western Cultural Supremacy just starts saying it louder?

It's like that. Everyone with a clue beforehand knew what was up, but now even the people with no clue at all can't honestly deny it, not even the most generously slack-jawed "centrist."

Of course, they still will, because they're not honest, and that's what some people just can't wrap their heads around:

Conservatives aren't honest, and do not operate on principles of good faith. There are still those who will deny his Nazi rhetoric is Nazi rhetoric, but they're just lying.

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[-] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

That's why he does it too, "nobody is paying attention" when it's the biggest thing helping to define his political brand.

I think they're confusing "not paying attention" with "not doing anything." If the fear is genuine why isn't there a popular front against Trump? People talk online as though they're very concerned but you don't really see anything happening to mount a resistance. Are people signing up to campaign for the Democrats over this, or are they just posting memes about it? Is it that nothing can be done and people feel completely powerless? Maybe everyone is just dug in at this point and we just have to watch this happen. In any case it's pathetic to constantly hear how worried everyone is about fascist Trump while nothing is done about it. It's like everyone is just reacting to politics happening and have no political agency of their own.

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[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

"...and nobody is paying attention..."

This is something we read and hear about every single day. Not sure how much more attention we could give it.

[-] shadearg@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The expert sounds like they are hoping that there are some adults within earshot that may suddenly wake up and rein him in.

It don't work like that in the really-real world unless it's extrajudicial.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 11 months ago

Literally everyone is paying attention. Half of the population just loves Nazi rhetoric though because it makes them feel like winners, when in reality, they're a bunch of cousin fuckers with IQs under 95. They don't understand what the Republican party stands for traditionally, they don't understand the religion they promote, they don't understand how their own electoral system works (FPTP w/ EC), and they don't know a damn thing about history.

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[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

We're all paying attention, the problem is that those who vehemently support him just literally don't care and will vote for him anyway. He wasn't wrong when he made the comment that he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and get away with it. He literally orchestrated and attempted coups and got people killed because he threw a temper tantrum and couldn't stand the thought of not getting his way.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Reality is scarier.

Trump's rhetoric is increasingly mirroring Nazi talking points, making him popular among Americans.

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[-] jerome@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

We are, we can't jail or execute him. We have to wait and see if our justice system does it's job.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago

Which is to say, did he and the GOP damage it enough in the previous years to enable fascism to take control.

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, it won't.

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[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

NoBoDy Is PaYiNg AtTeNtIoN!!

Is this dude for fucking real?

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As usual, centrists and news orgs who don't want to call out the fascism Nazi parade for what it is don't want to ostracize the potential Republicans who don't think they're Nazis by voting in Nazis.

Nobody's paying attention!!! Well, they are and you hear it loud and clear everywhere.

Democrats are horrified and disgusted, ready to fight tooth and nail. While Republicans are goose stepping their way through the Capital smearing shit on the walls trying to overthrow elections.

Gotta pretend like there's still good people voting in Nazis that might change their mind though! Not that they're voting in greasy BO old man shit smelling fascist dictators because they want fascist dictators.

And right on time! MiGrAnT CaRaVaNs are being peddled again.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Media putting on kids gloves for conservatives? Say it ain't so

[-] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Nazi has been so overused that people aren't listening to the word now that there is a valid thing to apply it too. They assume it's the same overblown rhetoric.

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[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump kept the book of Hitler's speeches by his bed, his cousin would click his heels and greet Donald Trump with a heil Hitler. He got angry that US generals didn't treat him like the furher. None of this surprises me.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not that people aren't paying attention, it's that the people who have to most power to do anything about it won't because they're either in his pocket already, or fearful of stirring up another insurrection

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

And the second group are wishfully thinking if they believe another attempt isn’t going to happen at all. Even if the fucker strokes out tomorrow I think a good hunk of the country would believe he was actually assassinated and make him a martyr.

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[-] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Trump isn't the only one. You have this trend all over the world. People know that it's looking like Nazi. But,

The government's inaction on foreseeable issues stemmed from a reliance on neoliberal principles, holding onto the notion that capitalism's magic would resolve all problems—a perspective maintained for the past three decades.

Trump and others are the solution that they didn't try. Plot twist, it won't change, Nazi were capitalist. But, it's like choosing between the worst and the really bad.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Nobody in his sect is paying attention. The rest of the world is looking at this with anxiety.

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

"Nobody" as in the world at large isn't paying enough attention to the clown? He still gets plenty of coverage in the US! For his followers the more international attention Trump gets, the better, it doesn't matter what kind it is.

[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Don’t give them the click

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 1 year ago

What do they mean nobody? I'm shocked and disgusted, but I'm European. What should I do about it. And from all the people I know all around the world I know nobody who isn't shocked and disgusted.

[-] MightBe@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

This article would be more appropriate for the politics community, since it is an opinion article from the interview of Peter Simi regarding Trump.

I would not consider this as news.

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