~~It’s worth noting that due to brilliant design decisions, the only way to put different tires on it is to replace the whole wheel.~~ edit: apparently this part was not correct, my apologies for the misinformation
That does not look like a ton of snow. I park in higher snow than that every year when I drive out to the mountains to ski. That would be about the amount of snow I park in the driveway with after it’s been plowed and sat for a couple hours with snow fall.
The thread that came from is full of people saying their Civics, Outbacks, Mini Coopers, etc has handled snow like that with no problem.
It’s like 5-6” of snow on a flat grade.
I used to drive a Mini Cooper Clubman and it definitely handled snow better than that.
The type of snow also plays into how easy or difficult it is to drive in. The snow in the pic looks like a tricky sort to me.
But I'd still expect a car with enough clearance and AWD to manage it.
Back in my day we used to drive in double the snow on our way to school, up hill both ways. And all of that on summer tires!
my 1996 camry could easily handle snow like that with bald tires, this is bad driving and stupid car.
This is a good point. You’re probably right that the main problem is that the driver sucks.
That’s basically no snow. I drove a 2003 Miata through deeper snow than that just to get out of a residential area onto plowed roads.
if you were to do something sexual with a cyber truck, which end do you put the bag on?
The bag goes on my head, so I don't have to witness what I'm about to do.
The only correct answer.
lol, that's barely a few inches of snow.
replace the whole wheel.
How does that work?
~~Apparently they have custom wheels and custom tires so you can’t just put a different tire on, you need to switch out the rims too.~~
edit: I stand corrected, today I have spread misinformation, my apologies
Nope. The tyres it comes with are custom, but you can fit any tyre you want so long as it's the right size (which does admittedly limit your options somewhat). The rims aren't a custom size either (although, the ones that come from the factory obviously are a custom design, but like the tyres, it's not hard to find a replacement). And there is nothing particularly special about either of them. Plenty of options out there for both. Plenty of reasons to hate this vehicle, the two issues you listed are not reasons to do so as they are problems that don't actually exist.
Edit: you may be getting confused as they got a patent early last year for their wheel covers (which I think is valid as they have aero shit involved with em). But they literally just clip on and off.
Interesting, I stand corrected. This is common misunderstanding then, probably based off what you mention in that edit, as comment threads are filled with it being discussed.
edit: after some search, it may also be due to what looks like third party replacement rim and tires packages being available. Maybe it’s been assumed the replacement rims were necessary to use other tires.
I think the rabid anti ev and anti musk hatred is what's driving it more than any misunderstanding. Like I said, many reasons to hate this vehicle, but a lot of the "conversations" I see about this vehicle (and EVs in general) are complete and utter tripe.
I made an edit that may be relevant too. It would make sense.
I don't see how your edit is relevant given that pretty much every car on the road has third party rims and tyres and this isn't an issue for them.
Because most of the time you don’t see packages of them, they’re usually separate. The majority of people aren’t bothering to get new rims unless they need them, like when the old ones are damaged from rolling on a flat or something. But when companies are selling “special” aftermarket cybertruck specific replacement rim and tire packages, it makes it sound like the rims are a necessary component, when you could just apparently just use the existing rims with the new tires.
Pretty sure you're not a "car person" cos those packages abound for many other vehicles on the road. Which is further reinforced by me plugging in "wheel and tyre package" into ye Olde google and getting a shitload of results for, surprise surprise, wheel and tyre packages for a variety of cars. From your daily run abouts, to 4x4s, to suvs, to sports cars. Here's one site that offers over 20,000 wheel and tyre packages.. So, yeah, your assumptions are woefully wrong.
Well, that’s kind of what I mean, most people who are confused and commenting about this for cybertruck aren’t necessarily car enthusiasts, and wouldn’t normally be looking where you would see that. The average person isn’t shopping online for tires anyway, they’re going to the local shop to pick some and have them put on. At least here if you go to the average shop to pick replacement tires, they’re separate from the rims. With cybertruck the same observers would have to go online, see all these packages and may assume it’s necessary. It’s just a possibility. It just seems like too specific a criticism and misconception for it to purely be just people hating on it. The notion had to come from somewhere.
Yeah, so maybe "most people" should shut the fuck up and not spew nonsense about a topic they know literally nothing about? And what kind of arse backwards country do you live in? Every tyre store I've been in in Australia has had a number of tyre and wheel packages on offer. I literally had a chat with my tyre guy the last time I got tyres as they had a package on sale for 70% off (off topic, but it was the last one they had and it had sat for over 6mths). This isn't a specialist tyre place that only specialises in these packages either. Hell, here's the wheel and tyre packages page for Australia's biggest tyre retailer. These packages are literally on the showroom floor when you walk in. You'd have to be so dumb that you should be committed if you walked in these stores and missed them.
I cannot argue with your first point, but it is what it is.
Regarding the rest, you’re surprised different countries or locales may have differences? Ok.
Where I live specifically, on this small island, space is at a premium. Most places don’t have enough room for such displays. You go into a small reception area and there are a couple of example tires out front. There may be a couple example rims of different sizes, or they may all be in back. You give the person your current wheel size and they bring out a couple of tire options in your price range. No one offers to sell you rims, because the average person here spends enough money on rent and basics as it is that no one’s going to be sold rims unless they ask for them.
You’d have to be psychic to walk into one of these places and know what all is available or whether packages are sold.
So fuck off with your attitude.
Isn't vendor lock-in a wonderful thing...
Isn't replacing the wheel what you do on a normal car too? I've always found the use of the phrase "change the tyre" on cars weird, because it's not like you actually take off just the tyre and put a new one on, like with a bike. Speaking of which, do car tyres have inner tubes inside them?
It is like a bike :). The wheel is the metal/plastic part in the middle. The tyre is the outer rubber part. They will take the wheel of the car to replace the tyre but unless the wheel is also damaged you will get the same one back. Regarding the inner tube some have a tube and some don't same for bikes actually.
Oh okay. So when getting a new tyre to replace an old one, that's the same as a bike, then?
But I think it's still probably right to say that "wheel" would be more accurate when referring to your "spare tyre", wouldn't it? And probably also when talking about rotating tyres?
Yeah the rubber part gets replaced.
Correct the spare tyre is the wheel+tyre as you can't just swap the tyre on your own. And yeah rotating is just moving wheel+tyre to a new position on the car so the tyre gets a different wear pattern which helps it last longer.
I'm no fan of the cybertruck nor Tesla but this is likely a tires issue and not necessarily a Tesla issue.
When I drove my car through snow on performance tires last year I barely made it home even though there's only half an inch of snow on the road.
All that being said: proprietary tires? That's fucking asinine. Tech company gonna tech company i suppose
~~To my knowledge, they are custom Tesla tires. On custom Tesla rims that don’t accommodate non-Tesla tires. So still a Tesla problem.~~
edit: apparently my knowledge is wrong
See my reply to your other comment, your knowledge is wrong.
I have an AWD Hyundai Kona. I regularly drive to work in more snow than that on the roads during the winter... easily.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1ZyIthzDgxE
That's just with AWD, not even 4x4, let alone a low range mode!
Why's he spinning the tires so much?
Do BMW drivers actually understand the concept of letting off on the gas a bit, or is that a lost art for them like turn signals and shoulder-checks?
It makes it an even better example, you must be even more stupid than a BMW driver to be stuck like that Cybertruck driver!
You've definitely answered your own question in that second sentence of yours...
You don't need low range in snow
Depends how stuck you want to get!
Higher range is actually better in snow/slippery conditions. You're less likely to over throttle and break traction. Many cars have a snowy condition button and it usually causes the car to take off in second gear and and dampens throttle input to help prevent slippage.
I've always had my winter tires on seperate wheels. In the past it's been steel wheels, but for my current car, I got a matching set of OEM wheels fairly cheap bc someone had custom wheels put on their car and didn't want the OEM wheels, so I bought them at a discount from the dealer, and had some winter tires put on. I couldn't imagine getting the tires on my wheels switched twice a year, I just get the wheels swapped. I used to do it myself, it's a bit of a workout to change four wheels, these days I get a shop to do it. Steel wheels aren't the most aesthetic, although my silver Subaru looked pretty good in the snow with 17" black wheels and some aggressive winter tires. Drifting...drifting...drifting the night away!
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