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submitted 10 months ago by vegeta@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Former top officials from Donald Trump’s administration are warning he is likely to use a second term to overhaul the nation’s spy agencies in a way that could lead to an unprecedented level of politicization of intelligence.

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 123 points 10 months ago

On the other hand, the prospect of a second Trump presidency has the unintelligence community delighted.

[-] Argonne@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago
[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

They're included in the community mentioned above due to recent performance.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Russians have turned the Republican party into Useful Idiots.

[-] twistypencil@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

Maybe they could do something

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Nah, they only do something when there's a prospect of a socialist democracy rejecting American corporate interests... because the military industrial complex and entire intelligence apparatus is a tool of capitalism.

Corporations aka "the economy" = "national security"

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Man, given what the intelligence agencies are known for, I don't exactly want them interfering in US elections.

[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago

Maybe just this once, as a treat

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

It starts as just a treat, then dessert, then it's the main course, and before you know it, it's three meals a day of spookocracy.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
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[-] frezik@midwest.social 45 points 10 months ago

Trump, who already tried to revamp intelligence agencies during his first term, is likely to re-up those plans — and push even harder to replace people perceived as hostile to his political agenda with inexperienced loyalists, according to interviews with more than a dozen people who worked in his administration.

This is why fascism always fails despite all its posturing about being "strong". People in top positions are chosen for loyalty to the leader first and basic competence second. Then those people are turned against each other to make sure they never accumulate enough power under themselves to directly challenge the leader. This is exactly what happened to Nazi intelligence, and British intelligence ran circles around them.

It never works in the long run, but they can take down everything around them in the short to medium run.

[-] Mikelius@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Dan Carlin did a wonderful show about why the German army of WWI was much better than the Wehrmacht. And his argument can be summarized as “Do you really think Falkenhayn or Ludendorff would have tolerated Goering for 5 minutes before firing him on the spot?”

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 37 points 10 months ago

Cheeto Benito just outs intelligence assets on a whim, him being in charge makes us less safe in many ways. He is proof we are an unreliable ally.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

America has been rendered effectively schizophrenic.

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[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah...the last 50 years wasn't the proof, no....Hey remember what happened to allies like Iraq and Afghanistan?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

To everyone suggest he gets JFKd...

I bet you it's on the table. And the intelligence communities are weighing on how much of a martyr it'll make him/if it'll spark a civil war.

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Just keep feeding him burgers until he chokes. No one would be the wiser.

[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Andrew Lloyd Webber should team up with Mike Judge to write the musical, Idiocracy Superstar.

[-] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 15 points 10 months ago

Where are the assassin-spies then? If they're so nervous... do something about it? We all know you can. NSA, if you're listening...

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

where are all the assassins…

History suggests they’re probably all Republican.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Ok, then do something about it

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Maybe they should share some intelligence

[-] Kyuuketsuki@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Asking honestly: do you think doing so would change anything?

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The way I see it, if the Americans end up picking a president who ranked among the bottom 5 presidents of all times, it's their own fault for doing so and they should enjoy the consequences of that.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The issue is, that the rest of the World will also "enjoy" the consequences of that, because you can't just ignore 300 Million people...

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Fairly certain the not-so-intelligent community is just cheering him on, though.

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