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Biden discussing the border during the SOTU
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This the most exercise most of these geriatrics get in a year.
I counted 3 standings.
Oh no, did pandering to republicans not make them your friends, Joe? Were you really psyched to be the tough border president? Did you actually think they gave a shit about the issues they use as cudgels in the culture wars? Maybe you should sponsor more genocides, maybe that will finally make them like you.
Who cares about actually doing the right thing, or even the popular thing? It's all about sucking up to the worst bullies in the room, that's the best strategy, apparently. It's not like it matters, anybody who's paying attention already knows who and what you are: the guy whose supporters can only endorse as marginally, strategically better than overt fascists, and the guy who most people will only vote for because they have no other realistic option, and who absolutely nobody who wants a "tough border president" will vote for, because they know it's a team sport.
We all remember how those border agents talk about immigrants, calling them "floaters" and sharing photos of their corpses on facebook. They didn't go anywhere just because the president stopped going on TV calling Mexicans rapists.
Maybe you should sponsor more genocides, maybe that will finally make them like you.
Biden seems to be doing more to reign in Israel's 75-year project than any US president since the 1980s. I agree, it's nowhere near enough, and he should stop sending them aid, because that's accessory to mass murder. But I'm also pretty sure the war in Gaza was not his plan for what should happen in the middle east.
the guy whose supporters can only endorse as marginally, strategically better
This is so far off base I'm having trouble coming up with something.
Let's pick out just one issue: Gaza. Biden is giving aid, giving audiences to Netanyahu's political opponent, talking about "cease-fire," is slowly turning away from the US's default position of "yeah kill 'em all it's all good," all while sending weapons for some fuckin' reason. That's not ideal, no. Meanwhile Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and said of the recent war Israel has to "finish the problem." So you're fine with the guy who wants to finish the problem being in charge, because there's not much difference?
So let me get this straight... Biden is slowly moving away from his sponsoring of genocide, which you have acknowledged he is doing, in a moment of unprecedented public pressure against said genocide, and your only real defense of him is that he is marginally, strategically better than the other guy?
It sounds like you agree with what I'm saying because you just restated it, except with the addition that you somehow psychically determined that I am fine with Trump, even though I explicitly said he was an overt fascist and even worse, and that people ought to vote for Biden strategically.
Did you think that was an argument? Or did you just read my comment and think, "Hey, that's describing me! It's my time to shine!"
So let me get this straight... Biden is slowly moving away from his sponsoring of genocide, which you have acknowledged he is doing, in a moment of unprecedented public pressure against said genocide, and your only real defense of him is that he is marginally, strategically better than the other guy?
Did you read someone else's comment and mistakenly think it was mine? No. Biden is orders of magnitude better than Trump. If I didn't make that clear enough in what I said, then a quick recap:
- Biden: Student loan forgiveness, way-too-slow revision of our longstanding Israel policy, aid for Ukraine, climate bill, investment in infrastructure / working class, marijuana pardons
- Trump: Put political opponents in prison, "finish the problem" in Gaza, friends with dictators, murder of American CIA assets, project 2025, rapist, murdering Washington Post journalists is ok, 91 felonies, military seize the voting machines, IDK etc etc I can go on
No, he's not marginally better. I actually am irritated that the magnitude of absolutely bonkers attacks on Biden is making me come to his defense, because I don't really like the establishment Democrats all that much, but in case it wasn't clear, no the difference is fucking anything but marginal.
If you don't like defending them, then fucking don't. It doesn't take much to admit that you should probably vote for them, and that's all you really need to do with them. They're not your friends, stop acting like anything they do is good. He is literally boasting about his tough border policy, which by the way has some absolutely horrific ongoing consequences to this day at the border. The gross mistreatment of legal asylum seekers goes on to this day, you just don't hear about it because the republicans don't give a shit and the dems know it would look bad to yell about it when it's their guy in office.
Everything you named has a nice-sounding marketable title, but on closer inspection to just about anything they do I've found it's always bare-minimum perfomative change at the absolute best. It is pure spin.
I do not understand why you would agree that they suck but not want anybody to criticise them. Biden could end military support for Israel tomorrow and basically cinch the election. He won't do it, and maybe that means Trump will win. I don't know why you wouldn't want people to talk about that.
Quick question: What's eighteen plus thirty-six? How many letter "i"s were there in my previous sentence? Please, I am doing my homework, and I thought maybe you could help me with it a little.
I am eager to talk more about how much I agree that "they" suck but I just need to know that first.
Holy shit, you think I'm a bot because obviously this must be russian disinfo right? 54, and 5. Fuck you and your bullshit bubble. Goddamnit you have fucking brainworms.
Calling the other person a bot is the ultimate admission that you have nothing to say. "They". Fucking hell, the "they" is pretty clearly fucking defined, asshole. Stop talking to me.
Just curious, that's all. I do something like that whenever I notice that the answers I'm getting have a notable disconnect as compared with the things they're answering.
In multiple messages now you've told me that I "agree that they suck" when I keep telling you, no, they don't (at least the Biden administration doesn't), and listing extensive reasons why. That to me is sort of bot like behavior, and I was curious. Sorry if I gave offense with it, but out of four times I've asked that sort of thing, you are literally the first one who answered the question; some continued talking to me without responding to the fact that I was asking math questions.
Anyway. Picking out one example of the ones I gave: Can you share with me what your estimate is of the total reduction in emissions as a result of the climate bill? Or some estimate of what its ultimate results will be? I've looked into it a little bit, but I'm interested to know what you've found out on closer inspection.
some continued talking to me without responding to the fact that I was asking math questions.
Because it's weird and condescending, and the kind of thing people will just ignore. A bot would try to answer everything and fail. They'll try to solve the reimann hypothesis if you ask.
What these people - and they were almost certainly people - were doing is likely "blanking" you. They noticed an inappropriate social behaviour and ignored it in the hopes that you would get the hint that it was inappropriate without any need for a confrontation.
Frankly I don't have any patience for that. Have you ever asked that question and gotten a wrong answer? That would be a bot. If the answer is no, that's because you haven't found any bots. I answered to prove to you that you're a paranoid weirdo, and also because fuck you.
I'll also note that you ignored me telling you to stop talking to me. Does that make you a bot?
Don't answer, I certainly won't any more.
I figured you probably wouldn't be excited to be able to tell me all the details of how Biden's climate agenda isn't real when I specifically asked for them. Oh well. I'll have to go on having my weird mistaken beliefs on it. If only I'd been more polite, maybe you'd have been open to share your wisdom.
Have a good one. I will aspire to be more socially skilled in the future. God bless.
this post was submitted on 08 Mar 2024
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