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[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

They will move heaven and earth to get Ukraine more money even if they don't think they can win - imagine if they worked this hard for something like M4A lol or I guess that's a reach anyway, but pick some lower fruit

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

The article says "fully restored" which is dramatically different than "win". Of course Ukraine will be different after the war. I suspect you may be deliberately mischaracterizing the article to lobby against intervention.

[-] Danterious@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The article title says win, but the subtitle text says fully restore.

So it is the article itself that is misrepresenting the facts not the poster.

[-] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 9 points 5 months ago

He is fully aware Ukraine can't win. His advisors tell him, including general Milley.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Agree that they know, they always knew especially they had a significant hand in engineering that war, but i particularly wouldn't trust Milley about strategy and predictions, he was completely surprised by Russian intervention, he panicked and it was him who said that Russians will capture Kiev in 3 days (not Russia as libs are coping now).

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago

But gotta keep the charade going until the election is over.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago
[-] BellaDonna@mujico.org 4 points 5 months ago

Okay, I feel like anyone that thought that they had a chance of winning was drinking the Kool aid anyway, it's obvious they can't win, not even a war of attrition.

I'm someone who loves history, and global politics, and although not literally recognized as an expert or anything, it's super obvious that without the constant flow of aid Ukraine would've fallen in less than 8 months.

What we have now is a proxy war where the EU and US are propping up a losing nation, but soon they will either surrender or be conquered unless the US or Europe directly intervene.

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