"no proof of an illicit deal"
The money IS the proof of the illicit deal, they gave him money when there was no legal or reasonable reason to give him money.
"We wanted to just give away money" isn't a legal reason for anyone who isn't recording for a you tube channel at this point.
But the SCOTUS already said money is free speech. This is exactly the natural progression of Republican corruption we expected.
One of the clowns on this court is a corrupt fuckhead who has been accepting bribes from billionaires for years.
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
This was another case by the conservative law network where the facts were either made up, or so badly misrepresented that they might as well have been made up. This mayor basically walked into the company's office and said, "I got you those contracts. Give me money if you want any more in the future."
Ok, sounds like the Supreme Court is just sorta all-in on institutional corruption. Got it.
Why wouldn’t they be? Aren’t they the product of institutional corruption?
They're a product of unrestrained Capitalism capturing its own government and accompanying regulators. This was the inevitable outcome of "turning the bull loose."
Short term profit > the needs of the many and the long term habitability of this planet for all future humans.
Who cares about our species' future? Bezos' support mega yacht for his mega yacht needs a support support mega yacht to keep it company!
It's yachts all the way down.
Because they'd be the first to go if we cleaned up corruption. I can see them sitting there wondering about all their "gifts" and seeing the chance to dismantle any laws that would bring that into question.
Always has been
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I'd say we had a nice run, but considering genocide, slavery, highly selective voting rights, Jim Crow, Union Busting, supply side economics, foreign government toppling for domestic economic goals, warring to open up markets for resource exploitation, citizens united, etc... No we didn't.
We weren't even some benevolent saviors in World War II despite the constant crowing, we had our pacific fleet destroyed so we fought back. The war came to us, we were practicing eugenics prior to WWII.
Yup, we entered the European theater because the ppl we loaned all that money were getting their asses kicked and knew if they lost we'd never see a cent back.
And prior to us getting attacked, there were a metric ton of powerful Americans who sincerely dug the Nazi's style, including Henry Ford, who manufactured war machines for both sides, and is still held up to children as a titan and pioneer of American entrepreneurship because he made a lot of money and facilitated more profit for other capitalists, all that matters here, so who cares what he supported ideologically amirite?
Let's be fair: Henry Ford was an antisemite way before Hitler.
In 1918, Henry Ford purchased his hometown newspaper, The Dearborn Independent. A year and a half later, he began publishing a series of articles that claimed a vast Jewish conspiracy was infecting America. The series ran in the following 91 issues. Ford bound the articles into four volumes titled "The International Jew," and distributed half a million copies to his vast network of dealerships and subscribers. The rhetoric was not unusual for its content, as much as its scope. As one of the most famous men in America, Henry Ford legitimized ideas that otherwise may have been given little authority.
Henry Ford, the modern progenitor of "The Jyoos" conspiracy. Thats a crazy factoid. But not really cause you have to be off your rocker to exploit that many people and be hateful enough to buy out a newspaper just to trash a peoples.
While yes, what about rock and roll, or hip hop or the ability to criticize politicians you disagree with? That was all cool. Shit, having trouble coming up with more. I'd put the new deal in there too. That shit was gold and created a strong working class. Just sucks how dumb we've always been because of the racism and greed (can't fund good schools for everyone or have public pools or whatever)
I'm sorry, but again, jim crow.
Our most revered eras of prosperity, except the 90s, were so prosperous on the backs of a massive, racially determined underclass supporting it and not benefitting from it with no other options. They never even had well funded schools worth the defunding that's happened to the rest since then.
And once a lot of people died getting rid of that, the owners decided fuck all the peasants, leading into today's more widespread economic despair.
Also rock and roll was derived from African American music of the times, and was just another thing white Americans stole from their racial underclass to benefit themselves.
I never said Jim Crow was cool or anything. lol
I consider Black Americans Americans so... America gets the credit
I don't think we're understanding each other here. Wasn't really trying to argue. Sometimes, two things can be true. No?
Two diametrically opposed things, you mean. And yes, they can.
We will thank you for inventing hip hop, but both the japanese and the british have better hip hop than your pop hop these days
What would you consider good modern hip hop?
British and Japanese
Okay, I walked into that one, but I was hoping you'd suggest a specific song or band :P
For reference my favourite band is Flobots; if it's not political hip hop, it's not good hip hop
Tbh i was just trying to bluff and sound like a hip hop connoisseur. Sorry for giving you false hope, but i will listen to your favourite to try and broaden my knowledge. I do like both british stret accent and the japanese are just cute. I listen mostly to pre2k hiphop from us when I do listen to hiphop
Not because its the best, but because im that old
In that case, my favourite song is Good Soldier, but my favourite album is Fight With Tools, the whole thing is fantastic. Both by Flobots; the only song you may have heard if you aren't already a fan is Handlebars
Nice addition to my regular “daily discoveries “ from tidal. I will check them out tomorrow (im in europe and should sleep now).
I listen through the discoveries every day on my commute to work, and Im quite sure AI is overrated as 70% is shit.
I was referring moreso to the cultural impact. (Though from your later replies I think you're just making a joke I'm not getting)
When I think of things I respect about the US and the positive impact its had, I tend to think of how most governments at the time (50s-70s and 70s-90s) seemed to be cracking down on personal free expression (granted that was happening in the US for nonwhite people) and yet Americans (specifically those in counter-culture movements) were able to resist and come out on top. Hell, I'd even throw in comic book creators as having made their mark on moving the needle towards free expression despite loud criticism from conservative mobs.
It's very depressing, also for those of us in the imperial sphere of countries. Because we're beholden to US foreign policy, and the worse the US gets, the more dangerous it is for us.
I mean, we (Australia) already we're doing war crimes for the US in Afghanistan (look up David McBride, the Australian military lawyer), already buying $300 subs as some kind of tributary payment, already followed you into dozens of wars we had no business being a part of, I truly worry for what's next under a more corrupt US regime.
Yikes.
So as near as I can tell, the Supreme Court's goal is to create some vague illusion that corruption is not to be tolerated by making it a crime if and only if people with a specific interest in a specific ruling or piece of legislation offer a substantial amount of money or something of equivalent value while clearly communicating their intent to buy the influence of an official and said official then accepts the bribe, clearly announces their intent to act according to the bribe-payer's wishes solely because they've been paid to, then does so.
And in literally ALL other cases, it somehow won't count and will be entirely legal.
They have already decided money is speech, so this is a 1st amendment ruling?
Also an easy way to cover their asses for all the bribes they have taken.
Yes - it's pretty much a given, cynically, that a corrupt court is going to rule that corruption is legal.
As I often do, I wonder if this is going to be one of the things that future historians will point to as a notable event in the days leading up to the collapse of the US.
Illegitimate court. Not a single ruling from them should be upheld or paid attention to by any citizen. Over half of them have proven themselves to be corrupt BEYOND shame.
Unfortunately, despite the fact I agree with you this court is illegitimate, and would add our entire government is illegitimate due to the capitalist's capture of it and legalization of their bribery of incoming officials, these illegitimate rulings will be enforced by our captured government at the point of a gun, and for this I blame the framers for failing to put any reasonable checks, including term limits, on the judicial branch.
Oh my, 6-3, who ever could those 3 have been who didn't want corruption?
Ya know, if 2016 was just a hair different we'd have seen 5-4 against such a ruling. But ya know, people were so upset about Hillary's emails, or someone. Sigh.
It feels like they are trying to radicalize me.
Have you heard of project 2025?
I'm not saying the system is rigged, but what's a few million extra ~~bribery~~ lobbying dollars out of your corporate budget when it means that you can secure your goal of reduced government oversight? It's not like you have to do this for any other political candidate than the Republican and Democratic nominees either, since you know news outlets will make sure to not platform and illigitimize any independent party that's a threat to their own financial interests.
corrupt supreme court making it legal to bribe them? stinks
Who would have guessed the bribe takers are all for bribes...
Did you really expect them to rule against their own economic interest?
At this point, it's an unsolvable problem.
The only way to begin preventing lobbying interests from overtaking voter interests would be to have anti-lobbying politicians, and enough of them to actually get something done without being blocked by both the Democrats and Republicans. That would only happen after multiple decades of anti-lobbying presidents being elected, and that itself will never happen because the RNC and DNC are both paid off by corporate interests, so they'll never nominate a candidate that goes against their masters. And, on top of that, it's highly unlikely that a third-party candidate will ever succeed when they're both illigitimized by the media and put in an extreme disadvantage by the electoral college.
What the actual fuck?
Buying politicians is super duper legal now, thanks to conservatives both past and present. May the super wealthy among us rejoice as the huddle masses work feverishly for their masters. The conservatives have done their part and restored the autocrats to their former power.
Scratch one of orange Genghis Don's campaign promises.
seems like a good thread to plug https://represent.us
they describe themselves as
RepresentUs is America’s leading nonpartisan anti-corruption organization fighting to fix our broken and ineffective government. We unite people across the political spectrum to pass laws that hold corrupt politicians accountable, defeat special interests, and force the government to meet the needs of the American people.
here's their policy platform https://represent.us/policy-platform/
they claim to have played a part in over 185 pieces of legislation (mostly at the state level) that contributed to their core platform https://represent.us/our-wins/
here are their ongoing campaigns presented state by state https://represent.us/2024-campaigns/
nobody and no organization are perfect but I feel like most people can find something to agree on here
Here's a little corruption, as a treat!
Call it a tip.
I'm going to leave this bag of money on the floor, if it's gone when I come back I won't miss it.
Just be sure to declare it as found money on your taxes!
“Nuh uh, you can’t prove it!”
What a fucking joke.
What else do you expect from uncle Tom’s fishing trips?
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