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Despite lobbing the same questions at Tim Walz, J.D. Vance lost it when pressed about his own military service.

Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance seems perfectly happy to dish out criticism of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz over his military record, but he just can’t take it. 

Vance blew up at CNN anchor Brianna Keilar on Thursday, after she called Vance an “imperfect messenger” to criticize Walz over his military service. 

“At what point did military service become a liability?” Keilar asked rhetorically on CNN’s Inside Politics. “I also think that J.D. Vance as a messenger on this may be an imperfect messenger.”

Vance served a single four-year enlistment in the public affairs section in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, and according to his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, the Republican nominee was “lucky to escape any real fighting.” Still, that hasn’t stopped Vance from accusing Walz, who served with the Army National Guard for 24 years, of exiting the service before his unit was deployed to Iraq.

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[-] dogsnest@lemmy.world 220 points 2 months ago
[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 180 points 2 months ago

I mean....if you don't want people asking questions about your military service, maybe, just maybe, don't question the military service of your opponent.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 months ago

This is just me, never served but have relatives who did...

If you don't have a purple heart and the dude you're talking about isn't claiming to have one, maybe stfu about Stolen Valor.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 145 points 2 months ago

Walz served for 24 years, was deployed during operation enduring freedom, was a the ranking member of Veteran Affairs, has been key to bipartisan legislation for veteran suicide prevention, and he retired a year before he would’ve been deployed to Iraq.

Vance slimy weirdo who knows his base would rather eat up lies than confront the fact that they’ve been conned by a billionaire huckster for a decade.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago

Also, 4 years is a pretty standard enlistment period for the guard. He did an extra 4 years after finishing his 20, and instead of doing 28 years he retired and ran for Congress, which also required him to retire due to the Hatch Act.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Guard can actually extend for any arbitrary amount up to 6 years, and initial contracts are 6. It's possible he just did 3 6 year extensions. If he really did a 6 year at his 18 year mark that's pretty fuckin patriotic. Like goddamn.

[-] Darkaga@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Initial contacts are always 8 years with a period served in active service and the remainder as inactive. 6/2 is the most common but I've also seen 4/4 and 3/5.

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[-] Davel23@fedia.io 118 points 2 months ago
[-] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 months ago
[-] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 106 points 2 months ago

“When were you ever in war?” Vance demanded at a Michigan rally on Wednesday. “What bothers me about Tim Walz is this stolen valor garbage. Do not pretend to be something that you’re not.”

How do you consistently fuck up this bad every time?

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 29 points 2 months ago

It does look like Walz misspoke years ago when he was making a point about how some weapons only belong in war and not anywhere else. I don't think it's that big of a deal to make, especially coming from someone else who also didn't see combat but more importantly doesn't seem to understand that service is far more than combat.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago

I don't think that's a misstatement at all. Nobody needs an M2 Browning in their backyard, as cool as they are.

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[-] InternetUser2012@lemmy.today 8 points 2 months ago

Easy, it's called being a republikkklown

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

i can see how it can be frustrating to see every q&a session has a military-related question couched in.

but seriously, does he not melt down to anything? even the softest of balls he gets asked pisses him off for some reason.

Reporter: "what makes you laugh?"

Vance: "well i laugh at bogus questions like this from lamestream media!"

Reporter: "why would people want to have a beer with you"

Vance: "because i like beer... maybe a little too much. I'M SURE THE MEDIA'S GONNA JUMP ON MY THROAT FOR THIS TOO"

like Jesus Christ dude calm the fuck down they're trying to help you and you can't stop being a weirdo for a goddamn second.

[-] Crank_it@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

For me, the most surprising thing about him has been how bad he is with the media.

I knew he was going to be a fascist piece of shit. I'm shocked at how incompetent a public speaker he is.

He's a fucking Senator and can't answer the most softball possible question.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

If this is how he responds to softballs, can you imagine how he responds to hardballs? I can't wait to see the debates!

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[-] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago

military-related question couched in.

I see what you did there

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

"Yes, fellow human, I love to do human things like drinking beer!"

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

I'm not saying Vance is throwing the election on purpose to fuck with Trump...

But if he was, what would he be doing differently?

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[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago
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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Inflation and housing and healthcare are huge issues which no one is addressing amidst the name calling and virtue signaling.

I don’t care about military records from any candidate! Address the issues, talk about what matters.

[-] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 109 points 2 months ago

Harris and Walz address those issues in their speeches.

What you're missing is that the media isn't covering those statements. The silly schoolyard BS drives clicks and, for far too many people, it affects their voting choices.

Walz, who spent years as a school teacher, understands the mindset of T**** and Shady Vance and is using their tactics against them in a very efficient way.

If you look at it from a teachers POV, T**** is the school bully and Vance is the nose picking stooge who desperately wants the same power and attention.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Thank you for not using that arsewipes name. Wish more people would do the same.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lol he's not voldemort. Trump is a bitch.

[-] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It's because algorithms pick up his name, and then feed into the volumes of shit news that is fed out.

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[-] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I thought they were blocking out TRAMP, /facepalm. I need to get some sleep.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

No, you don't understand, I don't pay attention to politics, which makes me better than you. But that means I have to invent issues and hope that nobody else pays attention to politics, because otherwise I would look pretty stupid.

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[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The annoying thing is that people interested in policy issues have already committed to a party. What’s left are swing voters who (when polled) come up with the most ridiculous reasons for voting for/against a candidate.

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[-] don@lemm.ee 36 points 2 months ago

Couchfucker Vance is a fuckin hypocrite?

No fuckin way.

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[-] runjun@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

As a veteran, fuck Sgt Scribbles.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago

Lol, this was my FIRST reaction/comment the other day when I read about his comments here on Lemmy. The GOP is full of fake soldiers and draft dodgers. They don't care about the military. Just listen to Trump's own comments about our dead heroes.

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[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

You started it, baby face

[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 22 points 2 months ago

Vance was such a perfect pick for VP, they couldn't have anyone better. He's perfectly a little bitch in comparison in every single way with absolutely nothing redeeming about him, to the point it's hilarious. Couch fucker.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Finally someone in the military community with a microphone is clapping back. J.D. Vance wants to talk about commitment? He left after 4 years. While the war was still going on. He wants to talk about combat? 90 percent of his job was in an air conditioned office behind multiple layers of security. He wants to talk about one time Walz misspoke? How about the multiple times J.D. Vance has claimed he saw combat?

As an old Infantryman with a Combat Infantry Badge and a Purple Heart I feel secure in saying the only one here doing a Stolen Valor is the 4 year carpetbagger trying to tear down the record of a man who served honorably for 24 years and reached the highest possible enlisted pay grade. A man who was retired and decided to activate prestige mode after 9/11.

If we let that happen successfully then we will have cheapened us all.

[-] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Look, he DID see combat.

In pictures.

In the articles he wrote in his office securely in the middle of the base.

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

The GOP loves the vets... but only the ones that didn't actually do anything...

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago
[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Private Parts In A Sofa.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 17 points 2 months ago

Huh. When I get asked about mine, I'm very up-front about all of it.

Weird.

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[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago

What a weird coward

[-] Llad@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

99 % of deployed soldiers never saw combat and 99% of those who claim to have did not.it can really piss off all those who had to deploy and worked hard jobs to basically be told they weren't enough by someone like Vance.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago
[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

The things they feel are important... Seem so

WEIRD

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