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'Embarrassing for Putin': Russian territory is under occupation for the first time since WWII (www.abc.net.au)

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[-] BatrickPateman@lemmy.world 223 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

First they were the second most powerful army in the world.

Then they were the second most powerful in Ukraine.

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I like they way this is going 🤗.

[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago

Second most powerful in Moscow 🤞😬🤞

[-] lauha@lemmy.one 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Second most powerful in Putin's dreams

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Would be wild if they took over Russia and Zelenskyy became the president of Russia.

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[-] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 52 points 4 months ago

And now they are the second most powerful in Russia.

I think it's been that way for longer than people think. Remember when Wagner just rolled through Russia without any resistance? Putin's might has always been false promises/ blackmail, but it's obvious now that Russia hasn't had the means to back itself up for a while now

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

Prigozhin should have waited to betray Russia until Ukraine was in a position like this.

Seems like he was an idiot, though. IDK what level of delusional hubris one needs to be on to travel to Moscow after an attempt such as that.

[-] illi@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

With how it went down he was mainly an idiot for standing down. Idk how he imagined that ending

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

they made a classic blunder- the one slightly more well known than getting into it with a scillian when death is on the line! Getting into a land war in Asia!

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago

Wait. But aren't they Asia? Lol

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Russia is. (ukraine may not be. Usually the distinction is a bit further east of Ukraine- around the ural mountains.)

but.

Russia definitely are asian. So. given that they picked a fight on their border... I'm gonna go ahead and say "close enough" to make fun of them.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 137 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Go Ukraine, fuck Russia.
A not very wealthy country of about only 120 million people wanted to play superpower.
They were offered peace, cooperation and prosperity, but instead they chose corruption and confrontation.
Russia could very possibly have been the biggest economy in Europe by now, if they had chosen cooperation. That would have made them more powerful and influential than all the bullshit they've pulled to undermine the west and their neighbors.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 4 months ago

I totally agree.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, they were handed everything they wanted on a silver plate.

They could have been Poland on steroids.

But they chose to reject it, so stupid.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

Russians have been brainwashed for centuries by their elites to thinking corruption is the natural order of things.

They can't believe that western nations can have shows of wealth and quality of life standards they do, because that means the way they and their ancestors have lived for decades isn't how people are supposed to live.

Their elites steal everything, ensure education standards are low as possible so their workers can just barely manage to operate in a factory, on a farm or in a mine, and then encourage them to stay drunk as possible during their waking hours.

And then they wonder why Russians who manage to emigrate west never go home and sooner or later cut all contact with their backwards motherland.

Frankly if it hadn't been for the advent of Nuclear Weapons, and Soviets stealing designs for them from America, Russia never would have been a Superpower at all and probably collapse in on itself in the 60s.

[-] LibreHans@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Their elites steal everything

You think the western elites don't? It's just slower..

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 39 points 4 months ago

The trick is not to steal faster than the economy can produce. It's like organic, fair trade, sustainable kleptocracy.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Western elites do steal, true. But to no where near the same extent. We'd have trillionaires in the west if they stole as much as Russian oligarchs do.

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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 44 points 4 months ago

wanted to play superpower

As someone who is from that region, it's not even that. A whole lot of countries want to play superpower, and they are only mildly hated for it. The US, the French, even the Chinese are an abstract economic threat. The Russians want to play 18th century superpower and that makes them a concrete military threat.

The stupid thing is, just by looking at the state of the world right now, they totally would have won the long game if they went soft power only. Putin is a failure that way as well I guess.

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[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 119 points 4 months ago

To my knowledge, it's the first time in history that a non-nuclear power invaded and occupied territory belonging to a nuclear power.

So, that's even more dubious history Putin played a part in.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

A very nuclear power at that.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 87 points 4 months ago

Putin is finally making history, his legacy will now be remembered forever. What a great accomplishment! They said it would be over in 3 days, over two years later and now Ukrainian troops are in control of Russian territory.

Amazing what Ukraine has managed to pull off here. Watching closely to see how this unfolds.

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

You mean Putin, the Poisoner of Underwear?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago

Another chance to use my new Ukrainian Riker!

(He's Rikrainian.)

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

He's going to struggle to perform the riker manoeuvre with a horn of that size..

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago

It’s about the commitment to the leg throw, not the size of the hog in the hedgerow

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[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 months ago

Jesus Christ, this is painful to read if you can read Cyrillic letters

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

If I wrote "playing a sour note" in Ukrainian, no one would understand it.

Including me.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

Ukraine and Russia are uniting into one country. Just not the way Putin envisioned.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago

He wanted a war, so he got one.

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

Oh no, poor Putin

But remember, when god closes a door, he certainly opens a window...

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[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Good for Ukraine.

[-] eronth@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Wowee, all he had to do was not be a shitter and this wouldn't have happened. Now it will be his eternal reputation in history books.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

This is all history will remember him for. A botched violent and illegal invasion of a peaceful country for absolutely no good reason whatsoever!

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

that and running russia for what 30 years now with Medvedev, starting a war on an alleged false flag attack and then running some kind of invasion every handful of years like clockwork.

What's funny is before Alex Jones became a giant putin simp he had, possibly correctly, suggested putin blew up some russian buildings to start a war in 1999

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings

[-] frankgrimeszz@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Russia = New Ukraine 🇺🇦

[-] anakin78z@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Yes, it's the embarrassment that's really important here. 🙄

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago

Surprisingly, yes. For that kind of people, public perception is everything

[-] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 12 points 4 months ago

It really is. The only way for this to end, is for Putin to lose support internally.

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