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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 92 points 2 weeks ago

Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I'm just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 60 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 2 weeks ago

Let's start by putting up cameras in all his houses.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️

[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 2 weeks ago

Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper

[-] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said "these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen".

Your plan will work.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 35 points 2 weeks ago

Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?

(No.)

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 weeks ago

You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.

[-] wargreymon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

The fascists think they die happy.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

They do, one with them at the top

[-] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.

Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 weeks ago

Only if I can use AI and cameras to follow police around, map them, and use pattern recognition to make sure they behave as well.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?

The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.

BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.

[-] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well yeah my comment was sarcasm.

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[-] another_kbin_addict@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

While wearing a mask that'll fool AI on top of a ski mask beneath it.

[-] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/

Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/

And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.

A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).

Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground

[-] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.

[-] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

[-] dotslashme@infosec.pub 12 points 2 weeks ago

Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Because they have undue power over our lives.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?

[-] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

1984 was not a manual

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

Theyre already there

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

they put that shit into water bottles... water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it's % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!

[-] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".

Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

Shitty billionaire

ah but you repeat yourself

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.

[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Like person of interest?

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Welcome to China

[-] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum

Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.

Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta?

Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?

[-] Tyfud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck Larry Ellison.

Now he's going for super-villainy against people who've never even heard of Oracle.

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