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submitted 3 days ago by ch00f@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Just curious because I don’t see people talk about it a lot.

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I assume this depends on where you live, though.

[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

r/piracy megathread all the way

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Definitely depends on where you are in the world. I don't know if you could do that here in the upper Northwest of the States. I know my parents have a little tablet looking TV receiver they used to use that would get them free TV, but I don't think it gets free sports or my dad would absolutely flip out over that football season.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm 28 so a little older than the prompt, I have a setup i never use it. I used it a lot as a kid but it doesn't hold up to the alternatives.

  • tv & movies: the worst matchup with alternatives. In the time of the first adbreak i could add the show or movie to my *arr and get it before the ads are done. I also don't have to tune in on the hour/half hour and can switch to my phone/pc if I want/need to go somewhere else.
  • live news: i don't like tv news generally, but if i wanted i could watch it for free on YouTube or via free app.
  • live sports: the most compelling usecase. Unfortunately when I did follow sports I followed a team from the next city over, which means they get no coverage here making it useless. It also more ads than streams. Streams are honestly still pretty inconvenient and still pretty ad filled (banner ads, "this goal sponsored by" physical ads in the arena). None of this is worth it to me anymore so I just don't watch anymore.
[-] spizzat2@lemm.ee 52 points 2 days ago

The transition from analog to digital really hurt my desire to watch OTA TV (you caught me! I'm not under 25).

With analog broadcast, any weak signal or interference produced a little bit of static, but you could still see and hear what was being said. With digital, any weak signal means dropped frames and silence or weird glitches. You completely lose what's happening. Even with a powered antenna, I have frequent issues with weak signal. I could probably try to get a rooftop antenna installed, but there's no guarantee it would be any better. It's just easier to find other entertainment at this point.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm 26+ miles away from the broadcast antennas as the crow flies and I get great reception from an approx $100 antenna mounted in my attic. Some HOAs don't allow antennas and people might be surprised to learn how good your reception can be from an attic.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Ditto. We went from having five channels, one snowy on a bad day, plus a bonus 6th channel when the stars aligned, to two channels at best.

The broadcasters and regulators took a basic fact about digital signals "We can get a better quality signal with less transmission power" and saw it as a challenge to set up their digital transmitters with the most conservative estimate of minimum power required. I haven't studied well enough for my amateur radio exam to know if I'm comparing apples to oranges, but I'm still shocked to see descriptions of transmitter power go from 100kW in one case to below 20kW.

[-] meanmon13@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I guarantee a large rooftop a antenna would out perform anything you have indoors or those terrible small ones. The one you linked is way too small to work properly for the wavelengths used by TV stations.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I hear that. We have an attic yagi aimed directly at Seattle from 10 miles away, and we still get the occasional dropout even on our strongest signals.

Still when it works, it works really well. We watch Nature and Nova on Sundays, and the wildlife footage looks incredible.

The switch to UHF is also a factor. Compared to VHF, UHF is much more susceptible to blockage by things like leaves. I live in a forest, and 70cm is basically useless while 2m is unaffected and I can work the nation on 6m.

[-] egrets@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago

The cost to move to America is quite steep, though, and there are significant drawbacks.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 33 points 3 days ago

Dunno where you are but most countries I've visited in Europe have hundreds of free TV channels broadcast over the air. Minimal ads because a lot of the channels are tax subsidised, or like the UK, a loicense innit

Where I am, you get a TV streaming box from your ISP for a few euros, and streaming is free for about 200 channels; ad breaks are around one minute long every 30 minutes

[-] hawdini@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago

Heck, here in the UK, we have a TV licence and the OG ad-free service, the BBC.

Yeah, the BBC has had its fair share of controversies over the years, but I’m still glad it’s there and still ad-free.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 23 points 2 days ago

People who say the TV licence is a ripoff should be made to watch US cable TV. I nearly gouged my fucking eyes out with a rusty spoon.

The BBC produces the best quality TV programming on the planet

An awful lot of shite as well

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[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't care about cable TV. In Hungary nearly all news broadcasts over here are just propaganda machines and spitting out literal garbage content. Also the ads.

UbO + Internet + torrent goes br

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

See this is what I’m talking about. Cable is not the same as over the air. I’m not sure how your cable works in Hungary content/pricing-wise, but I do find it funny that a lot of younger people in this thread are lumping the two together.

[-] Zangoose@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Cable isn't the same as OTA but from a viewer standpoint they're both live TV. Live TV in the US is basically unwatchable unless you really like sports or 24/7 news commentary (even then live news is usually also available through phone apps) and don't mind being interrupted by ads every 2 minutes.

Anything else is better watched with torrents/piracy streaming sites. They don't stop the show to serve some random combination of medicine, home insurance, and car ads.

[-] observes_depths@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago

This (applies everywhere). Besides it's all aimed at boomers and not at all engaging. People who are internet savvy can easily find better free content.

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[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 52 points 3 days ago

I am aware. I am also aware that I haven't used cable tv over a decade and I do not regret ditching that garbage

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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ads, ads everywhere.

Besides there, there is also a 4k OTA standard, ATSC 3.0. Most TVs don't support it yet, but some do. Worth googling before you buy. You can also get something like an silcondust 4k standalone tuner and plug that into your home network instead. You then load its app to watch over the air TV in 4k.

If you do buy the silicondust tuner, you can go further and get a DVR going. Plenty of free projects that will help you setup and record TV like jellyfin, and many of them will auto-skip the ads too with an application called comskip.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

No OTA broadcasts in the US utilize 4k yet. ATSC 3.0 is being utilized some, but not exclusively, but no one is broadcasting 4k unfortunately

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago

Atsc 3.0 requires an internet connection for it's bullshit DRM

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Woww, over the air broadcasts with copy protection? 🤮

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[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

That seems entirely pointless then, why not just stream the content.

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[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago

The ads on over the air programming are so so terrible. And even with a great antenna the many channels aren't exactly the highest quality content even if they didn't have ads.

YouTube has taken the place of over the air TV and for good reason.

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[-] QuikxSpec@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

You can also watch Pluto TV. No sign in or fee. Lots of 24:7 dedicated channels for shows like Midsommer Murders, MST3K, Americas Test Kitchen, etc as well as variety genre channels

[-] lohky@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Are you my wife? Since we discovered Pluto, our TVs are constantly flipping between America's Test Kitchen, MST3K, Antiques Roadshow and Jersey Shore if we're feeling especially rowdy.

There's also a Mr Rodger's Neighborhood channel that our we leave running in the mornings for kid and dogs when we leave hah.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

17 here, my grandparents used it before switching 1-2 years ago. Can't imagine the ads are any better that less people watch it and staticy stations were annoying.

I myself don't watch TV that much, mainly YouTube or music. In the last month I've watched ~3 episodes of impractical jokers on the family TV, and 8 episodes of South Park on my Steamdeck before bed.

[-] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Bro is 17 in this economy 💀

[-] uberstar@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes.

https://fmhy.net/videopiracyguide#live-tv-sports

Although I don't tune in to live sports, I just share resources to find free livestreams/media with others :P

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[-] Microw@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

Linear TV over an antenna? Well that's only technically free. You'd need to buy a receiving device - that costs money. You need to watch ads - that costs time.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Well considering many paid tiers of streaming services also serve ads, I consider it free-er than that.

Also, most of the hardware is already inside your TV. You just need a $20 antenna.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I have no TV. I watch all my movies and series via a big PC screen which has no TV functionality.

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 days ago

You mean OTA TV? I don't even watch sports, the rest has 10 minute advertisements. And considering it's digital, I don't find it interesting at all. Yes, a weird reason, but anyway.

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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

What’s the password for the “UHF” wifi?

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[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

why would I use that when I have a *arr setup?

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Living in tornado alley, having a TV antenna and a weather radio is almost a requirement. If the Internet gets knocked out, OTA still works. Also, my Internet is shit so I wouldn't rely on it if a tornado is bearing down on my location, but I do also love watching 9½ hours of nonstop tornado coverage when nasty storms might come my way.

Outside of that, I know to tune in at about :15 past the hour during newscasts to catch the weather report, which gets uploaded to their website later anyway. If the football game is on, I might catch that if I care to watch. I don't really watch OTA otherwise.

But I'm 32 lol

[-] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

(Assuming you mean DVB-T). In some place OTA is just the standard. Where I'm from cable TV is simply unheard of and all terrestrial digital channels are free with varying degree of ads.

Another great example of how things work so different in different parts of the world

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

So you only pay for the extraterrestrial channels?

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago

Nice try, Channel Master.

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