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[-] MechaGrima@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Not if you're talking about the character from Fire Emblem: Three Houses. Then they're all just ɛ

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

But only in English. In the original German, all three e's are actually the same.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Häh wie sprichst du das denn aus? Offensichtlich überhaupt nicht /mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs/ wie alle anderen? In Spanisch sind sie gleich, in Deutsch alle unterschiedlich, genau wie in Englisch.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 20 hours ago

Wenn du den spanischen Frauennamen meinst, dann sind das verschiedene Vokale, aber der Name der Automarke ist so voll eingedeutscht, der einzige Unterschied ist vielleicht noch, dass das mittlere e ein bisschen länger ist.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 14 hours ago

Nein, andersrum wird ein Schuh draus.

Wenn du den Spanischen Frauennamen normal Spanisch aussprichst sind das drei ungerundete halbgeschlossene Vorderzungenvokale.

Wenn du die Deutsche Automarke normal Deutsch aussprichst ist es erst ein ungerundeter halboffener Vorderzungenvokal, dann ein ungerundeter halbgeschlossener Vorderzungenvokal und am Ende ein Schwa.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Wenn du die Deutsche Automarke normal Deutsch aussprichst ist es erst ein ungerundeter halboffener Vorderzungenvokal, dann ein ungerundeter halbgeschlossener Vorderzungenvokal und am Ende ein Schwa.

Wenn Du meinst. Für mich macht das keinen Unterschied.

[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 23 hours ago

The original is Spanish, and the Es are pronounced the same

[-] TypFaffke@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Diese Kommentarsektion ist nun Eigentum der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago
[-] StopJoiningWars@discuss.online 17 points 1 day ago
[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Same in Poland.

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[-] archonet@lemy.lol 11 points 1 day ago
[-] HerbSolo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Me as a kid, having just learned english, listening to Janis Joplin: "What the fuck is a mercy dispense!?"

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When you pray for the lord to have mercy, they have to dispense it somehow. That part made sense to me as a kid.

However why would God have to buy one? And from whom? Who manufactures these mercy dispensers for God? Why wouldn't God just make them into existence?

When I learned that it was Mercedes Benz I came to understand that even God needs to abide by trademark law.

[-] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago

Wait until he notices the C's in “Pacific Ocean”.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 59 points 2 days ago

I never did understand how an ocean can contain multiple seas.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Did you recently become a father? Because that was one of the better dad jokes.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 days ago

I earned my dad joke card in 1985 when I came around the corner carrying a joke book and like 7 kids groaned.

is old

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[-] lugal@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago

It's the same in German: /mɛʁˈt͡seːdəs/

Despite what other commentators say who are evil and eager to spread lies about the German language

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

However, in Spanish, which is the name's language of origin despite being a German car, they're the same. All e as in red. Mercedes.

[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Phonetical consistency...

Nunca lo entenderías...

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

True, it's a common female name, or was idk. Iirc the car is named after the daughter of the inventor. The German pronunciation is the butchered version of the Spanish first name so I'm on no moral high ground

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 23 hours ago

Iirc the car is named after the daughter of the inventor.

Not the inventor and it's a bit more complicated. Emil Jellinek was selling Daimler cars, and had them participate in races for publicity. His daughter was called Mercédès Adrienne Ramona Jellinek. The historical record is a bit unclear, either he used her name as a pseudonym for a racer, or he christened one of the cars after her. In any case they won that race, gaining the name some notority which he and the Daimler-Motoren-Gesellschaft used for further marketing later on.

[-] flughoernchen@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago
[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

The difference is so narrow that I wouldn't notice any difference apart from the length, the first and last e are very slightly shorter than the middle e. And of course you have the usual going-down-with-your-voice-at-the-end-of-the-word

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[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

E is super flexible in German

e, ae, oe, ue, eu, ie, ei, ee all make distinct consistent sounds

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

On a phonetic level, some specialist will be able to discern the different E-sounds, but they're still very similar. It's definitely not like the English pronunciation where it's completely different sounds.

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[-] Brahvim@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 1 day ago

I’m fighting an urge right now…

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

If you add Benz you get a 4th E sound

[-] bazingabot@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

not true in German, there all Es sound exactly the same

[-] manucode@infosec.pub 28 points 2 days ago

When I, as a German speaker, pronounce Mercedes, every e is slightly different.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

The first E in Mercedes sounds slightly different from the other two in German, mostly because the rhotic sound [r] modifies the tongue placement for the preceding E, forcing you to say it as either an open-mid front unrounded vowel [ɛ], or a mid near-front unrounded [ɛ̽]. The [r] prevents the vowel from being a Close-mid front unrounded vowel [e] like the 2nd and 3rd occurrences of E.

Or more simply, the first e sounds more like "bed" while the second and third sound more like "may", assuming you're reading this with a standard American dialect.

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[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is going to mess with me all day, I just know it!

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago

What the hell, it's originally Spanish where all the Es sound the same, then it got popularized by a German brand, where all the Es sound the same, how did it become Merceydees in English?

[-] apostrofail@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Abraham is another

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Not if you pronounce it the way Germans do

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[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

So I've been saying it wrong all this time? Because the first and second sounded the same to me.

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