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Clearly, Google is serious about trying to oust ad blockers from its browser, or at least those extensions with fuller (V2) levels of functionality. One of the crucial twists with V3 is that it prevents the use of remotely hosted code – as a security measure – but this also means ad blockers can’t update their filter lists without going through Google’s review process. What does that mean? Way slower updates for said filters, which hampers the ability of the ad-blocking extension to keep up with the necessary changes to stay effective.

(This isn’t just about browsers, either, as the war on advert dodgers extends to YouTube, too, as we’ve seen in recent months).

At any rate, Google is playing with fire here somewhat – or Firefox, perhaps we should say – as this may be the shove some folks need to get them considering another of the best web browsers out there aside from Chrome. Mozilla, the maker of Firefox, has vowed to maintain support for V2 extensions, while introducing support for V3 alongside to give folks a choice (now there’s a radical idea).

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[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

It's good that I use Firefox and will continue to be ad free then, eh?

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I switched to Firefox over the summer and have been mostly happy with my decision.

However, there have been a LOT of issues with video playback on certain sites and I really don't know how to fix them. Searches have been just about useless in regards to finding a fix. The worst one is Nebula. The video often just freezes while the audio just keeps trucking along like nothing is wrong. This has happened to a more limited extent with some YouTube videos as well. And the TAB crash on some sites is quite infuriating.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

I sure hope so. I've been on team Mozilla for a long time, but right at this critical moment they are starting to wobble. Their CEO seems to be steering them in a direction that I don't agree with.

(I still believe Firefox is the best option right now; but I'm a little concerned for the future.)

[-] falk1856@midwest.social 15 points 10 hours ago

And we started with "Don't be evil"

[-] dumbass@leminal.space 3 points 2 hours ago

I believe their new slogan is "Fuck em', what they gonna do!?".

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

My Chromebook heard about it and a few weeks ago developed a display issue. I’m now looking for a new laptop that allows Firefox browser. It’s kind of funny how things work out.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Wait, a Chromebook won't let you use any browser other than than Chrome?

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Chromebook won’t let you get browser Firefox unless you switch to Linux but not all Chromebook’s are able to get Linux because of hardware. I was one of those people.

[-] sramder@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Comeon 0.0001%! Let’s get those last 5 people who know what an extension is but were holding out for…???

Yeah… These articles are like reading the tally marks on a prison wall. Let it go.

[-] jezebelley64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

I still use Chrome on Android, but with the system wide Adguard adblock app. Works great! It even has a Tampermonkey style script injector. It's my must have Android app next to ReVanced Manager.

[-] KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

Good thing I'm on LibreWolf that comes with uBlock Origin.

[-] sandbox@lemmy.world 107 points 23 hours ago

We’re going to have a serious problem on our hands soon with compatibility. I’m a software dev and I’m already seeing a few issues here and there where Chrome is being treated as the default expected browser and features don’t work on Firefox.

Firefox doesn’t support a fair few Chrome features because of security and privacy reasons, such as WebHID, WebUSB, etc.

Devs, please stop using those features. I know it’s tempting, but they’re basically bribes to encourage you to sell out to Google. Don’t do it.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 19 hours ago

We’re going to have a serious problem on our hands soon with compatibility. I’m a software dev and I’m already seeing a few issues here and there where Chrome is being treated as the default expected browser and features don’t work on Firefox.

It's basically IE6 and ActiveX all over again.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

Firefox doesn’t support a fair few Chrome features because of security and privacy reasons, such as WebHID, WebUSB

I'm very serious about my opinion that we are better off without them. If the feature does not exist, it cannot be activated by a bug in the permission system, and also the lesser technically inclined people won't allow them by reflex/accident

[-] altec@midwest.social 13 points 18 hours ago

I just don't use services that don't work with Firefox. Easy.

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[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

Most "Chrome-only" web applications I have to use I can get around just by changing my user agent string and everything works fine. I try not to use that stuff when I can, though.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

This is my experience. They are just taking your default agent and throwing up a message because they can’t be assed to do minimal testing in FF.

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[-] vincentpants@lemmy.ca 8 points 15 hours ago

Yeah but Mozilla just turned into an ad company. Hard fork time.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

I can't imagine a few developers maintaining Firefox without MILLIONS of dollars.

[-] TooManyGames@sopuli.xyz 10 points 14 hours ago

Not really. Ads aren't gonna dissappear, with Mozillas tech, they'd at least be more private than what Google will implement.

[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's true, Mozilla's vision of ads is much better than Google's. But is there any reasons it will be one or the other? Is there any reason to believe that Mozilla's ads will displace Google's ads? Or are we just going to end up with more ads: Google's very bad ads plus Mozilla's less bad ads.

[edit] Just to be clear - I don't want to sound any Mozilla. Mozilla hasn't actually acted on this yet. Firefox is still good right now, and will continue to be good at least in the short term. It's just that Mozilla have stated their intention to work on making ad systems. So when that actually happens, it will be bad.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Maybe they'll replace ads on sites that let them and block them on other sites? Who knows

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Librewolf didn't take as much adjustment as I would have expected, and it even supports toning down specific security postures for QoL niceties like Firefox account sync. Made the switch just to try it out and haven't gone back. Excited to see what people come up with for more forks/hard forks in the future.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I kinda wish for google CEOs and shareholders to die a horrible, painful death :p

[-] mwguy@infosec.pub 7 points 15 hours ago

Come and join me in Firefox and try out container tabs. Super powerful when you're trying to keep home and work identities seperate.

[-] pkmkdz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

I love containerized tabs. They do break online payment for some sites but imo it's worth it. Wondering if there's similar feature / addon in brave / librewolf...

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