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with supply and demand and all... IM DEMANDING CANNED BREAD!! where's the supply 🥺?

It replaces workers with robots so it would probably save money too.

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[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 24 points 12 hours ago

Factories I've worked at had vending machines filled with microwavable food (burritos, burgers, sandwiches, etc). All of it was pretty disgusting.

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[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 29 points 13 hours ago

Japan can have more vending machines, because their culture raises people in a way that they have less vandalism and the companies take more responsibility for problems with vending.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 hours ago

I thought you were going to say that their culture is more insular and less sociable, because that would be a better explanation than the popularity of vending machines.

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[-] 33550336@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Is this cool because it has Japan signs? Has it any more features than US machines? Or US has no vending machines at all?

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

This vending machine is serving good that comes out already heated/ at the very least warmed. It's not just bags of chips

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 141 points 17 hours ago

People in the US don’t respect others property. Look at any atm machine or vending machine. There’s no way these things wouldn’t be vandalized immediately.

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 106 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

This is the answer. Japan has a lot of respect for others (well, for other japanese at least), so these types of machines will last a lot longer; making the payoff more palatable.

Place a vending machine outside in America, and it'll be vandalized in a week max.

Even in highly walkable cities, you don't see vending machines. It has nothing to do with cars, it has to do with the culture of the US being one of disrespect most of the time.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 35 points 16 hours ago

Vandalize? .... the entire machine would be stolen. Either by thieves wanting to steal the merchandise or money or both. Or a bunch of teens that would tie a chain to it and drag it to the end of town for fun.

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[-] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago

Completely this. Americans don't like letting other people have nice things. A vending machine would be vandalized, filled with glue as a TikTok prank, attempted to be stolen, and stop working within a few days.

Americans don't really give a shit about other people. We're more individualistic. You got yours? Good. Fuck everyone else. If we have to have protests and fundraising efforts to TRY to convince people to help others -- we got a long way to go.

Japan is built on respect for your fellow man. You can leave your wallet out somewhere and someone would return it immediately.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Respect for your fellow Japanese man. They have a long way to go in the xenophobia angle.

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[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 16 points 17 hours ago

Respect for others property might follow respect for others but that's not a popular concept in America

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 16 hours ago

When I visited california, there was a mall with multiple vending machines like the one in the OP for various foods and icecreams.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Bet it was inside the mall, with a camera watching it. Japanese vending machines like the one mentioned can be just outside nbd.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 13 hours ago

They were in the hallways, not out on the street. I didn't look for any cameras, but there wasn't any security nearby that would've seen anyone vandalize them. If there were cameras, I can't imagine it mean much to people wearing a mask.

I'm not saying vandalism isn't more common in the US, I'm sure it is in compared to hyper-respectful Japan, but I don't think it's absolutely impossible to have these.

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[-] LemmyRefugee@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Somehow related. There is a Japanese anime where the protagonist is a human that reborns as a vending machine.

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[-] ultrahamster64@lemmy.world 18 points 13 hours ago

My boss once said that you can abuse human workers, you can underpay them, you can worsen their conditions (and if you do it slowly) they might not notice, or they going to work even harder to survive. Worst case scenario they quit, and you just find another one "new" and repeat the cycle.

But you can't underpay robots. You can't abuse them. Why? Because they just break. You skip on maintenance, on working conditions, on anything around robots - and you are looking on fat sum of money that just going to get burnt on a new robot and its installation.

So no, robots are not going to save money, especially in this scenario, because abuse would be massive.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 8 hours ago

Except robots don't need to take as many breaks nor do you have to pay them minimum wage.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

The problem is minimum wage is the break even equivalent of like 2-10k human hours without even factoring in expensive maintenance costs.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 7 hours ago

A return on investment of 0.5 to 2.5 years is pretty good for companies. You also have to factor the costs of maintaining a space for a human equivalent. Paying a wage doesn't cover all labor costs.

[-] ultrahamster64@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago

You have to pay them minimum wage, It's just called "monthly maintenance expenses" and it's quite a bit more than minimum pay for humans

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[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 46 points 17 hours ago

Too much reliance on cars for transportation and commerce built around that. Compared to Japan; we don't have the opportunity for vending machines except when we are contained to a location without the ability to go to a store that isn't that "far". We have a larger scale of living; a half hour drive is normal to us, but a half hour drive for other countries is at the tipping point of finding a place to stay for the night and a vending machine selling a common foodstuff makes sense.

If you were forced to walk everywhere and "corner stores" were infrequent, vending machines would be far more common and worthwhile for owners of those machines.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 15 points 16 hours ago

I'm with you until the last paragraph. Corner stores are all over the place in Japan. It's fantastic.

[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

That is most likely the right answer.

I’m in Switzerland and we have vending machines (not as cool as the Japanese ones tho) because we walk past them everyday.

They are generally on the pavement near post offices, at train stations and other large public transportation places. For a time there was cigarettes vending machines near bars but I think those are now forbidden.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 6 points 16 hours ago

TBF I also felt Swiss people are much more trustworthy than most.

I even remember having going out for dinner and the person behind the counter asking what we ordered; seems like a lot of restaurant ordering systems don't keep track of orders because you can trust people being honest when they re-state their order at the counter.

I'm from the Netherlands, also in a very walkable city (Utrecht), and students would vandalise vending machines if they existed!

[-] Skunk@jlai.lu 9 points 15 hours ago

Trust and respect are some of the core principles in Swiss education and society. There are those well known newspapers stands that always amaze tourists. They are not locked nor monitored but people still pay for the newspaper.

For the restaurants it can be true but most places will know what you had only because the cash register system works like that (like they take the order on a phone that automatically sends everything to the kitchen and till). It’s mostly because all the systems available on the market works like that.

But as everywhere, things are changing for the worse, there’s more and more violence, disrespect etc.

Fun fact, I once had French friends visiting and they saw a field where you can take fruits yourself, weight them and pay the according price. No human supervision, no cameras. They were amazed and told me "In France we wouldn’t pay for the fruits, steal the money box AND the weighting machine"

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Vending machines work better when there's more foot traffic and more density.

Vending machines with specialty goods (as pictured) need to be restocked every day and they require even more foot traffic. I think this is the biggest factor why OP's vending machine is not viable in a lot of places in the US.

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I'd argue places like Sheetz serve a similar function in the US

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago

Bro, do you even vend?

Pizza vending machine in Seattle:

Cupcake ATM in Beverly Hills (and 3 other cities I've been in including Orlando FL and Las Vegas):

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Oh that's rad! Wonder if the amount of public areas in cities could relate to have more vending machines. The closest city to me doesn't have a lot of public spaces.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

I would imagine the requirement would be high foot traffic. Food has an incredibly short shelf life compared to other vending machine contents. That pizza vending machine likely has to be serviced/refilled/cycled every 2 or 3 days. The cupcake ATM would be slightly longer. Most of the cupcake ATMs are attached to the cupcake bakeries, but allow customers to buy from the ATM outside of business hours or when the line of customer is really long inside.

[-] False@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

The pizza vending machine is in a hotel a block away from a larger physical location by for the same company. So similar arrangement. Probably easy for them to maintain

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[-] GottaKnowYourCHKN@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

This is at the Hyatt, ain't it?

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[-] Cringedrif@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

I just saw a book vending machine in an elementary school this weekend....I thought that was kind of cool.

[-] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 6 points 14 hours ago

Yeah we have those outside!

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

There are little free library boxes everywhere in my town!

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 11 points 17 hours ago

We have cool ones here, too!

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 9 points 17 hours ago

That one is actually pretty hot.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 17 hours ago

Cool it, Tasha.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 16 hours ago

There are a lot of cool vending machines in Japan, but the food ones are usually gross.

[-] Trail@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Yeah. I prefer the schoolgirl used panties or ass juice ones myself.

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 15 hours ago

Well, I was thinking the coffee or electronics ones. But I'll take your word for it.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

Walmart and Amazon have expensive canned bread.

apparently people like it?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/B-M-Brown-Bread-Raisin-16-oz/10291606?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=4296

as for cool vending machines... gotta be cool to have cool vending machines.

[-] False@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Oh neat. I go through bread really slowly and often end up throwing a lot of it out whenever I buy some. That could work well for me.

Edit: that seems like expensive bread

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

apparently it is not shelf stable either, hahaha.

[-] electromage@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago

We're trying to get away from wrapping everything in plastic film.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

That's not a factor, there are a good selection of cellophane-like materials that are biodegradable

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Sometimes those vending machines are very unsanitary and would not pass health regulations here in the US.

[-] Henry@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

Food without a human guarded? Free meal?

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