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Abravnel's pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.

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[-] npz@lemm.ee 68 points 3 hours ago

Newsweek was unable to independently verify at the time of publication whether the people on the boat were from the antifa movement.

Oh, fuck off. I'm unable to independently verify whether the people on the boat were Newsweek employees.

[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

So they did publish the name of a Neo-Nazi identified on the boat with the Nazi flags, who's the founder of a Neo-Nazi group.

But going as far as to say these known Neo-Nazis are not antifa would be too far.

Cause Neo-Nazis are so often also antifacist...

[-] Vieric@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

They love Neo-Nazis. What they don't love is when they get too loud or conspicuous, because it costs them PR points (sometimes). This is the only reason the right wing will ever so much as give lip service to thinking these people might be anything less than "very fine people".

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

They wrote: "I was in the parade today. Just like on J6 [January 6], those are not Trump supporters. They were antifa scumbag imposters and were treated accordingly as you'll see in the video." Antifa is a term for far-left groups that resist facists and neo-Nazis.

LOL, they are still going with this BS for J6? Why would dementia donnie pardon a bunch of "antifa", then?

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Antifa is a term for far-left groups

Antifa is a term for the monsters under conservatives' beds.

[-] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 54 points 5 hours ago

A vote for Trump is a vote for Nazis. Always has been but now they’re showing faces so you know its true.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 hours ago

One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company.

Ok, I was mad until I read this and then I was full of chuckles. What a dumbass stunt and I love that this former-and-soon-to-return crackhead was inadvertently brought into the conversation.

Also, show your faces, nazi fucks. If you’re so proud, why are you hiding?

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 7 points 3 hours ago

If you’re so proud

Do you really expect consistent thinking from a bunch of neo-Nazis who named themselves after a song from Disney's Aladdin?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Also, show your faces, nazi fucks. If you’re so proud, why are you hiding?

Well the article said that Antifa is a group that resists "facists" [sic] so maybe they're looking to avoid Antifa by not being face-ists.

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[-] Moops@fedia.io 68 points 6 hours ago

Strange how they don't have an issue with masks now.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 5 hours ago

Props to the guy that soaked them. Even fascists have some standards.

[-] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 hours ago

Not because they disagree with them, but because they accused them of being Antifa plants to make them look bad.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

At least they agree that swastikas make them look bad. Baby steps.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

Tbf, I'm getting Poe's Law vibes from it myself.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 267 points 8 hours ago
[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 6 hours ago

It is amazing how open they show their colors even before the election. Maybe, just maybe some potential voters read this as a warning sign.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago

Unfortunately this is more likely to cement his existing support

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Florida? Swastikas?… wait- yeah, that tracks.

[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 93 points 8 hours ago

How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis' footsteps?

[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 12 points 5 hours ago

It's a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being "we're okay with jews but only if they're not in our country".

There's a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it's not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

The cynical support for Israel is something that runs very, very deep with the xtian nationalists. There have been various documentaries that touch on this, but one of the more recent ones I've seen (and remember the name of) is: "Praying for Armageddon".

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 79 points 7 hours ago

They only support Israel because they hate Muslims more.

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 52 points 7 hours ago

And because the religious sect believes they need the Jews to bring Armageddon/the rapture.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.

Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.

[-] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago

So at the end of the day it's Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It's the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn't belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.

Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn't really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it's about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.

[-] radroot@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

I'm encouraged that this is becoming more well known

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Watch Praying for Armageddon; I've seen other docs that cover this as well, but this is a fairly recent one.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Yuuuup.

I find it equal parts infuriating and hilarious... These motherfuckers want to pull some "Jesus hates this one trick!" type shit to trick their lord into appearing sooner than would "naturally" happen and they don't think the all knowing all powerful God wouldn't realize they had millions of people killed purposely for this? Their meddling and enabling is what would have that region in the state of war "required" for Armageddon...

Like what?

[-] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 6 points 3 hours ago

Fun fact: Kelsey Grammar (Frasier) is a proud Trump supporter and Christian who also publicly supported Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her show's reboot for tweeting that one of Obama's advisers was what happened when the "Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby".

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 48 minutes ago

Big oof... What a "wonderful" person... Didn't you know though, Roseanne was only racist because she was on Ambien!

Side effects may include: dizziness, upset stomach, headaches, slight fascist tendencies, blurred vision, and racism.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I believe in their view, it's presented as 'god can't come back until conditions are right, don't keep him waiting'

The answer to why god needs their help when he's all powerful is some mumbling about tests of faith and the unknowable nature of the divine

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago

the boat has to have a registration usually, why not use that?

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[-] tootoughtoremember@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

Seems the Mike Pillows dog whistle pricing reached its intended audience too.

[-] st3ph3n@midwest.social 52 points 7 hours ago

FL 2205 TD. I wonder who that's registered to?

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 33 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, all our products cost 14.88 but that's just a coincidence.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 26 points 7 hours ago

Why? Are Confederate flags too passé for them now?

[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 21 points 7 hours ago

No, they just ferl that they don't have to hide their identity anymore

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[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

They're Buddhists. You can tell by their flags.

These are Nazis.

[-] poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Buddhists don't also wear tottenkopf (death's head) on their shirts. These are Nazis. If their flag is misprinted then they are stupid Nazis

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 22 points 6 hours ago

FYI, it's not just a Buddhist symbol, but a general Asian symbol. My wife's family is Hindu—she she most of her family were born in India. My family is Jewish, we'd moved from Poland to the Americas as a result of growing antisemitism/the Holocaust.

For our wedding weekend, we printed programs that included information about each other's cultures to help our families mitigate any culture shock. Part of it was asking her family to refrain from using swastic symbols due to the negative connotation my family had associated because of Nazi appropriation. It also had notes informing my family of the history of the swastika and asking them to not be offended if they come across one. That anyone using swastic imagery is doing so out of love and is wishing peace upon us.

I realized this was a potential problem at an engagement party we'd had during Ganesh Chaturthi when the pundit drew swastikas on the Ganesha murti during their pooja. The only thing more shocking for me than seeing a house with 30+ people embrace a swastika was seeing a house with 30+ people casually embrace a swastika. (As pointed out, swastic symbols, since the direction and angle was different)

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

There's a historical place near my house (Southern California) that was built in 1903 and has a bunch of bas-relief swastikas in the decorations. They have little signs up explaining that the building predates adoption of the symbol by Nazis, but it's really strange to walk around and see them.

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