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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 50 points 11 hours ago

"1000 year old conflict" is already Zionist propaganda.

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[-] Commiunism@lemmy.wtf 6 points 7 hours ago

If US stopped sending billions in weapons for Israel to kill whoever their current target is, that would be a huge blow to the whole 'conflict' (as in, a colonial genocide). Neither of the candidates are willing to do anything of the sort though - Kamala has pledged to continue supporting Israel while Trump has pledged to give all the support Israel needs to 'finish the job quickly'.

And while yes, there's nuance to be found like with literally everything in the world, it's not a reason to dismiss any criticisms thrown at your preferred candidate.

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[-] daltotron@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

Yeah this place is definitely just like, getting canvassed hardcore. big rip

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 hours ago

This isn't what's happening, though. The Dems and Reps are aligned on Israel because it isn't a moral issue, but economic, which is why Biden has given Israel everything they want, including approving the invasion of Lebanon. The US supports Israel as a settler-colonial project because it helps the US secure power in the region, securing the Petro-Dollar as the world currency. This is how the US exploits the Global South, through predatory IMF loans, aka Imperialism.

Read To Stop Marx, They Made Zion. The genocide of Palestinians is for economic reasons, it cannot stop without a One-State Solution.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 11 points 9 hours ago

This is not a 1000 year conflict.

Israel cannot perpetrate it's crimes without the backing of the USA.

Stop excusing genocide and colonialism.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

This shit is so fucking stupid....

People ask why Kamala is so far right on so many issues compared to the Dem voter base...

And rather than say "yeah, I can't provide a valid reason she keeps going to the right", we keep getting these posts about how it doesn't matter?

Imagine if Kamala's line was just to the right of yours, whatever you care most about, she's just going to agree with trump on.

And when you go around, asking why you aren't important enough to be on Kamala's side of the line, everyone told you to stop being a baby and be happy with what you get, even tho what you want isn't included in her platform

Like, we don't gain votes by supporting a genocide.

We don't gain votes from a border wall and Trump's other border policies Kamala adopted.

Shit. Just being pro-fracking is going to lose us PA, and trump can't win the election without PA.

That one fucking issue that not a single person can explain why she holds. That's all it would take to prevent trump.

But instead of using your time productively to try and get Kamala to change while there's still time...

You want to shit on the people the party left behind?

Like this doesn't even seem like trying to bully them into voting anymore, you're punching down on these people constantly and gleefully....

You're acting exactly like a fucking trump supporter.

TLDR:

The people trying to pull Kamala left are the ones helping Kamala

You're trying to do the same thing Hillary supporters tried to do in 2016....

Do you honestly not remember how that worked out?

Or is this all intentional?

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