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submitted 15 hours ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/technology@lemmy.world

My impression is that this is a PR push, designed to avoid having to invest in renewables, and let them keep on burning gas and coal, rather than something likely to come to fruition.

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[-] vonxylofon@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Conveniently, the heat from all this power being generated and subsequently used in the data centres doesn't count as emmissions. Twats.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Fairly so - it isn't emissions, and does not contribute to the problem in a meaningful way.

The reason why emissions are dangerous is because they trap solar heat at large enough scales to change the global climate. Server farm heating isn't really anywhere near contributing at that scale.

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Is “AI” (ie, large language modeling, also known as enhanced word prediction; and with no logical reasoning ability) really so important that this infrastructure needs to be built?

For the love of the gods, let this bubble burst already!

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Let them build green energy before it bursts... although, as another user pointed out, this may be the usual money grab and nothing gets built in the end.

[-] irotsoma@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

In 10 years they'll be swimming in waste with no permanent storage facilities in existence, a little will leak due to cist cutting, and they'll let those shell companies go bankrupt to avoid ever having to deal with it.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

In 10 years they’ll be swimming in waste

Stop FUDing.

[-] bizzle@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago

Honestly, I know this is a polarizing issue, but nuclear is clean and pretty much safe and you don't need batteries for it. Lithium batteries of course being an ecological nightmare. Bring it on I say.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 3 points 2 hours ago

Bring it on I say.

As long as regulation stays in place. Or, better, add even harder regulation (for from security standpoints as well as fiscal) to ensure these fuckers are forced to be actively responsible for the safety and give them no way to back off and abandon a plant.

Let them donate excess power to the grid as well. Eh, fund housing nearby for the homeless.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 9 points 8 hours ago

Mining for nuclear is an ecological disaster, and is often done in poor countries under awful conditions, especially lung cancer due to the radon emissions of uranium.

[-] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Arguably it is better than mining for coal, lithium, etc. since those have similar issues, but one gram of uranium contains energy similar to 3 tons of coal.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

Try Thorium.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Mostly:

  • New nuclear is really expensive
  • It also takes a long time to deliver
  • The new reactor examples in here consist of reactors from suppliers who haven't done that before

So it has the feel of a plan to promise to spend a lot of money several years from now, and get a lot of PR points today, and quietly cancel the project later.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

It also takes a long time to deliver

Not that much. Do remember there's a lot of oil money pouring into FUDing about nuclear.

[-] bizzle@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Well that is, indeed, wack. I appreciate your perspective, I can't believe I missed the "corporations lying for money" angle. I'm usually on top of it.

[-] plz1@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Investing billions

Weren't the headlines a week or two ago about Microsoft trying to get taxpayer funded aid for reopening 3-mile Island? Companies shouldn't be asking for taxpayer funded handouts when they are basically printing money at this point.

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