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Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new !stardewvalley@lemm.ee taking over !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml

!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com for additional context on those recent events if you are interested

Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417

Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I'm trying to keep !simracing@lemmy.ml active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities

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[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

What’s wrong with lemmy.ml?

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

US Democrat members get upset that the instance with 1600 users doesn't agree with their opinions

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

No. I think .ml is becoming some kind of bogey man. At the end of the day I think any instance is gonna have its own slant and bias; which isn’t a problem for me, personally.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

Yep. Even if it's larger, I'll post in a smaller, non-ml. I don't mind reading their stuff and them existing but with the seemingly random moderation shenanigans, I avoid it.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago

I see more content complaining about .ml than I see content on .ml worth complaining about.

I generally don't block instances, communities, or users, either. I just know I am capable of recognizing a shit take on politics anywhere and can move on without existential or social crisis.

[-] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago

Previously no. Now yes. Apparently got banned for inciting 'peril' against my own race because tankies don't know the difference between ethnically Chinese and of Chinese nationality, and apparently you can't criticize china in the forums. Throw in a few abusive individuals from the same instance shooting off the mouth and I pretty much said fuck it, I'm out.

[-] alex@jlai.lu 0 points 5 hours ago

I prefer to support smaller instances, but don't have a problem with lemmy.ml specifically (whereas I do sometimes go out of my way to avoid lemmy.world)

[-] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

I block politics subs and have never had an issue with lemmy.ml. All the issues I see are related to politics.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I block subs and users and that usually takes care of 99% of the bullshit

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 13 points 14 hours ago

I never pay attention to, or care about where a community is hosted

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 21 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

lemmy.ml tends to have an immature userbase with immature mods. It's a weird bubble of insane extremists that are all about ideological purity tests. They aren't really interested in discussion and will ban anyone that doesn't conform to their extremism. And their extremists are constantly edging towards stochastic terrorism.

So needless to say, I'm banned from lemmy.ml, and I feel like that's a badge of honour. But that does mean I won't be engaging with any community that's hosted on lemmy.ml.

So if you want to have discussion that's not about how super awesome the violent overthrow of the government of your country would be, I'd recommend not hosting your community on lemmy.ml.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Absolutely.

I watch closely though.

Edit: Judging by my history, I missed it a couple times and participated

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

Nope. I participate everywhere in the lemmy fediverse I can and never really had any issues with mods yet, which is surprising as I don't hesitate to get into political arguments generally. Ive blocked users, but never an instance. I take everything on a community by community and user by user basis.

[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 16 hours ago

I generally don’t worry about communities. Either the community is well run or not.

Users, though. I’ll block trolls all day long. If I notice I’m blocking a whole bunch of users from the same instance, I’ll block the instance. So far that has only happened twice. Lemmygrad and feddit.ro.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes. I find their gaming-chair leftism and obnoxious preachiness annoying enough to just avoid. My blocklist is filled with .ml users, and none of those were because of any political positions. It's because they were annoying, whinging twats.

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[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 15 points 20 hours ago

I have to say the responses in this thread are a bummer, but I'm not surprised. I signed up on lemmy.ml because when I read the descriptions of the various instances, ML's "A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts" sounded pretty great and I saw a lot of technical communities that interested me. I didn't expect the politics. I tried to make a new user on .world a few months back, but I seemed to get stuck in some sort of user verification limbo. Maybe I'll try midwest.social since I moved to the midwest recently.

[-] B1naryB0t@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 20 hours ago

DBZero is a great option if you like something slightly edgy

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 8 points 20 hours ago

Dbzero and programming.dev are already also high on my list, but thanks for the recommendation. I'm not in a super hurry to move or anything, I've never been given a hard time on ML, but I hate to think I'm slowly being edged out of the wider lemmy experience.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

slowly being edged out of the wider lemmy experience.

If your home instance is lemmy.ml and it's just people using communities on instances other than lemmy.ml, then you still get the full experience, unless you're committed to only using locally-hosted communities or something.

If instances are defederating with lemmy.ml, then you're missing content.

I don't know of an easy way to get a list of which instances have defederated with a given instance. The information is public, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone has a spider, like the lemmyverse.net one, that gathers it. But as things stand, it's easy to, given an instance name, know which instances it has defederated from, but not which instances have defederated from it.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

I don’t know of an easy way to get a list of which instances have defederated with a given instance.

there's a website out there showing exactly this,but for the life of me I can't rememeber the URL >_<

[-] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

There used to be this, but most of the instances give errors nowadays:

https://defed.xyz/check?name=Lemmy.ml&software=lemmy

This one seems to work: https://fba.ryona.agency/?reverse=Lemmy.ml

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

Oh yeah that's the one

[-] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago

.ca is good as well, the admin is top tier and very transparent with the userbase. I'm quite happy with my instance.

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[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

Yes, but not really deliberately. I catch the instance ban hammer from their fragile admins so often I never get established in any of their comms

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

Certainly. I have the entire instance blocked as their moderation, admins, and plenty of the users I've interacted with are unpleasant. It's no Hexbear or Grad, but it's enough that my experience is better without their communities.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

If the conversation is civil I'll comment occasionally, but i don't think I'd care if my instance defederated from them. They're where a lot of tech related conversations are, sadly.

[-] AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Tbh the bigger instances need to bite the bullet and defederate from .ml. There are alternatives to all the good comms on .ml, they just aren't as active. Defederating would move a lot of users onto the alternatives and get some control back from the terrible .ml mods and admins.

Banning people from multiple completely unrelated comms for something that happened in one comm is bullshit and they abuse the hell out of that. I generally try not to participate in any .ml comm because of that.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago

Of course.

They banned me for calling Russia imperialist in one of their rant post, and claiming NATO was necessary because countries keep invading their neighbors.

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[-] kinther@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

100% I do not want anything to do with .ml

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 15 hours ago

I've declined the opportunity to Mod a community on lemmy.ml, which is really not like me.

[-] cacheson@piefed.social 10 points 22 hours ago

Yes, I block lemmy.ml communities when I notice them, just because I don't want to accidentally contribute anything to that instance. Some of the users are okay, but the admins are not.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 8 points 21 hours ago

Depends on the community and what has been posted. If it's something simple like AskLemmy and people aren't being super weird or preachy about communism or whatever, I don't find harm. I personally don't think I've had any bad experiences with them outside of the time I said I didn't trust a certain news outlet, which I cannot remember the name of.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

If there's an overlapping or related community on another instance, I'll avoid using the .ml version of that community

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 1 day ago

I've blocked the instance entirely. I never see posts from their communities, though I am surprised to still see users from it. I thought it would block everything.

[-] quinacridone@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago

This is something that that bothers me..... I joined lemmy.ml around 3 years ago as one of the pirate subs on reddit made a backup community there in case they were banned.

Fast forward to the api debacle, I started to use lemmy as a permanent alternative, and made 3 of my favourite art communities- abstract photography, collage and printmaking

It's always been in the back (and sometimes the front of my mind) whether to move them elsewhere, partly because people commenting on their 'blanket ban' of lemmy.ml, and the fact that I sometimes feel that I'm on one of the 'pariah' instances.

It's interesting reading the comments here, especially considering the art communities are laid back, without politics, and haven't had any issues (so far).....

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago

Nah, IDGAF about it one way or another. You run into more jerks there than average, but that's about it, so as long as block lists function, it's all good

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

No, because its nonsense tribalism. I haven't seen any actual consistency in nonsense takes between any particular instances, with only a couple of extreme examples (explodingheads, grad, yddrasil, etc) that are already blocked or dehosted. ML has more socialists, because lemmy was a little leftist community project at first and it's one of the oldest and biggest instances. Big instances also have a lot of idiots. World has a reputation for a lot of idiots, because it's by far the biggest instance. That doesn't mean everyone, or even most people, are idiots that are on the instance.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Ignoring reality doesn't make it less true. Certain groups of people or environments are worse than others, acting like that isn't reality is pretty naive.

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