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submitted 21 hours ago by Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I've got a Linux server running Xubuntu at the moment (It was a media player first), and it also runs two Minecraft servers for the family. It has two network cards that are both connected to the internet. Is there a way to bind the VPN to one of the cards and use the other one for regular use?

I've got Surfshark as my VPN, and it doesn't allow port forwarding under Linux. I've got some software that I want to keep behind the VPN, but the lack of port forwarding is stopping me from sharing the Minecraft servers, and when the VPN is active, it slows down the connection to some of my services like Plex.

I've tried to look it up, but I just don't know enough to get myself anywhere. I've found results that talk about name spaces and routing tables, but they assume a level of knowledge that I just haven't got yet.

I want to use the Arr suite and qBittorrent as the main programs behind the VPN, and Plex, Mylar (a comic manager), Syncthing, and Minecraft as the main programs without it. If I set up qBittorrent and the Arrs as Docker containers, can I use Gluetun to bind just them to the VPN? The VPN is using OpenVPN connections if that makes a difference.

Thanks in advance :)

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[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes you can!

As you said, it’s got everything to do with routing and you don’t know how to do that yet.

Now’s a great time to learn!

If you’re on a time crunch, go ahead and use network namespaces under network manager to set up something like what you want as another user suggested.

If you have time to learn about the firewall and routing table rules, put on your wire rim sunglasses, pop a jungle cd in and crack open Linux Firewalls or some such book for nerds.

[-] lungdart@lemmy.ca 33 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yes that's called routing.

You don't bind it to a NIC, you specify the destinations you want forwarded to each interface. Your VPN connection is just another interface.

If you're looking for good docs, you may want to Google split tunnel vpn, and also bone up on your networking.

A few static routes should get you what you need

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Everything you said is true, but I don't think it's the complete answer the OP would like.

For instance if somebody goes to Google, on the raw network, and on the VPN. They would correctly expect that traffic to take two different routes, and come from different IP addresses

[-] Mihies@programming.dev 3 points 16 hours ago

And one doesn't even need two NICs, right.

[-] nsfwpls@lemdro.id 15 points 19 hours ago

Yes, that's what Gluetun is for. You create a Gluetun container and specify which containers should use it as the gateway in the compose file with:

network_mode: "service:gluetun"

Then you can open a shell in the container and run this to see if the container's IP is different from your own:

curl ifconfig.io

Make sure to try stopping the gluetun container and confirm your other containers lose network access.

There are plenty of guides about this if you search for "gluetun arr stack", like this random one I picked: https://www.smarthomebeginner.com/gluetun-docker-guide/

That has some steps outlining the basic gluetun configuration, how to put specific containers behind it, and test it.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Gluetun is for containers. OP is asking about routing.

[-] nsfwpls@lemdro.id 1 points 26 minutes ago

I'm pretty sure OP is asking about forcing containers to use the VPN through gluetun.

"If I set up qBittorrent and the Arrs as Docker containers, can I use Gluetun to bind just them to the VPN?"

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

I think they are just misunderstanding what Gluetun is for.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago

It also exposes a proxy (and a tun), most things you want behind a vpn can use a proxy.

[-] Xiisadaddy@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

Not sure about the other stuff but qbittorent in its settings has a spot to specify which network interface to use. I always just select my vpns virtual interface. Never used surfshark so idk if itll work the same. Are the minecraft servers and everything you dont want on the VPN just LAN connections btw? I use Mullvad and it has a toggle to allow all the LAN connections through that you can turn on and off. Not sure if thats what u need tho.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Network namespaces!

ip netns exec namespace command

One namespace for surfshark, and anything you run in that namespace uses those rules

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 7 points 15 hours ago

Network namespaces and policy based routing are black magic, IMO.

I've got a VPN set up on my router and separate VLANs set up for ordinary traffic and VPN traffic. A device doesn't need to support VPNs at all, I just connect it to the VPN VLAN and all its traffic goes over the VPN whether it likes it or not. I've got separate wifi SSIDs for each VLAN.

My desktop is connected to both VLANs with a network namespace set up for the VPN VLAN, so sudo vpn rtorrent runs rtorrent in the namespace that's connected to the VPN VLAN.

My setup is nice, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who doesn't want to learn quite a bit about networking.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

Code dump for the curious?

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 16 hours ago

Wait WHAT. Thank you.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 14 hours ago

Yes but why?

What's the VPN for?

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