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[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 151 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's weird how borders can move around on their own without any action from anyone.

Edit: On a more serious note, where exactly does this type of bias come from? I don't think of the AP as a highly ideological organization but is there some top-down pressure to frame things in a certain way? Does it come from the outside? Or is it just the prejudices of individual journalists and editors at play?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 47 points 6 days ago

Israel has several lobbying organizations that watch news organizations and lodge complaints with them if coverage isn't favorable. Check out the ex CNN employee who recently said they literally couldn't publish without Isreal's permission.

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 21 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s not even Israel either, Zionists world wide do it for free.

There was a big leak of a group chat of influential Zionists in Australia a while ago were they planning how to get people fired, coordinate complaints to the media, etc.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Insane. Marginally related... I've learned the last year or so since I took up a moderator position for a computer game.. Some complaints you just gotta disregard no matter how many people whine. Being offended is a you problem. not ours. I've had this happen equally amongst people who were percieved as right wing, or lefties.

evidentley the news doesn't know enough to just laugh at the whining and disregard the complaint.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The problem is they're a profit seeking organization. And groups like CAMERA (Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America) can buy billboards telling people you're a bad product and influence investors to stay away and invest in other news organizations.

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[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 41 points 6 days ago

Israel doesn't actively do anything, they are to be referred to in the passive voice only. Russia is the one who invades, shoots and kills people. Bullets fly into the heads of Palestinians and Israeli borders move, no responsibility here.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

Manufacturing Consent

The essential ingredients of our propaganda model, or set of news "filters," fall under the following headings: (I) the size, concentrated ownership, owner wealth, and profit orientation of the dominant mass-media firms; (~) advertising as the primary income source of the mass media; (3) the reliance of the media on information provided by government, business, and "experts" funded and approved by these primary sources and agents of power; (4) "flak" as a means of disciplining the media; and (5) "anticommunism" as a national religion and control mechanism. These elements interact with and reinforce one another. The raw material of news must pass through successive filters, leaving only the cleansed residue fit to print. They fix the premises of discourse and interpretation, and the definition of what is newsworthy in the first place, and they explain the basis and operations of what amount to propaganda campaigns.

https://chomsky.info/consent01/

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 6 days ago

Thanks, I've been meaning to read this book for a long time. Maybe the time has finally come.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think they made a video on the topic at one point if that helps ya to start digging into it.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Consequences of Capitalism: Manufacturing Discontent and Resistance by Noam Chomsky and Marv Waterstone is also a worthwhile read if you get around to it

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[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 days ago

Sometimes because the paper is financed/owned by some party that profits off of the colonial & genocidal project, sometimes because the paper gets scoops from 3 letter agencies who make such requests in return for scoops, sometimes it’s racism that the writer might not even aware of, but most often it’s a combination of those.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I guess I was wondering if there's specific evidence of the way it works in this particular case. The AP is a non-profit, so it doesn't have the same structure as a privately or publicly owned firm. But of course, there's still the possibility of leadership imposing views onto its workers, though I think that's a little more challenging with a nonprofit. But I am curious about them because they are the source of a large amount of news published by other sources, so if they are biased then that bias infects the rest of the media whether they want it or not.

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago

I don’t know about AP specifically, but it’s a good question.

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[-] pingveno@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

It is a cherry picked headline. Here is another from the AP that gives a different story: "Middle East latest: Israel plans an extended occupation of Syrian buffer zone"

[-] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Even that is far too mild. The Syrian "buffer zone" is there to "protect" the Golan Heights, which was also originally pitched as a "buffer zone". Wonder what the long term plans are for this new "buffer zone", and which zone will buffer it next?

Why was the cherry there in the first place that it got picked? Stupid headline or article, even if its only one, needs to be called out on

[-] AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Oh it's not stupid, it's an intentional effort to manufacture consent.

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 6 days ago

There's an inherent bias towards treating government statements as fact (whether that's police, government officials or military spokesmen). When the other side is a 'terrorist organisation' or a 'community leader', they're automatically treated as biased and suspicious. It's a pattern you see with Israel, police shootings, etc.

Obviously when the country in question isn't aligned with the West (Russia, China, etc), the qualifiers and doubt comes creeping back in, and journalists will include examples of past lies to underscore the point, which you'll never see in a story about the NYPD or Matthew Miller.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

What goes through editor's heads on this shit?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That they dont want to be fired by their genocide sympathizing bosses.

[-] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 days ago

Advertising revenue

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Indeed, WTF. The Native Americans would view the US westward expansion like AP's headline about the shitstain Putin.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

Gotta love that passive language making autocracy sound mild.

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 6 days ago

Disgusting, these media titans should be held accountable for manufacturing consent on genocide.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Using what laws though? I’m not aware of any actual method that can hold them accountable.

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 6 days ago

Laws aren’t static, but the law also isn’t the only way to justice. In this case it clearly isn’t.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 45 points 6 days ago

Even the one on the left is still too soft on Putin.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To be fair, Israel has also lost territory that they previously stole in large amounts on the Lebanon front.

Most of the land they've gained was in Palestine, but the USA and UK probably didn't recognize the Palestinian statehood anyways.

The pedantic difference here is like the difference between increasing and strictly increasing.

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