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[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

instead we studied useful things

Have you ever seen any British television quiz game shows? The amount of world geography and history most contestants seem to know is abismal, makes me scratch my head and seriously wonder what many of these people are doing there, in a game show about knowledge. What are they even doing there, in the delusion that they have a shot.

"What is the capital of Denmark?"
"Erm... pass."

This person's comment is just another drop in the bucket in the sorry state of things.

[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

EDIT: I HATE ~~TAYLOR SWIFT~~ GIFS!!!! https://tenor.com/nB52SeZoYP1.gif

[-] Master@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

Its not even that great of a mini van. You can get better for cheaper!

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I'm in Canada.
I wasn't taught anything about the Odyssey or Iliad
But I at least know that they're ancient and Greek.

[-] WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 23 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Liam’s a tool. UK schools absolutely do teach the Odyssey, and have done so at least as far back as my youth.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

most of the time someone says something wasnt taught in school its because that person straight up didnt pay attention in class

[-] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 6 points 10 hours ago

Mine didn't. We did Buddy, The Crucible, Animal Farm and Shakespeare from what I remember. First I heard of the Odyssey was when I was 19 and DW did a retelling of it on Arthur. When I saw a copy of the story in the shop I worked at, I got it so I could read the actual story.

[-] WilloftheWest@feddit.uk 4 points 9 hours ago

Were you not aware of it at any point? I don’t necessarily mean as part of the GCSE curriculum. I’ve been aware of the Odyssey and the Iliad from the “Ancient Greeks” part of our primary school curriculum back in year 4. Of course we weren’t analysing texts, but I’d expect any ten year old to be capable of rattling off some major plot points like blinding Polyphemus, or sailors plugging their ears with wax against the sirens and tying Odysseus to the mast.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I may be misremembering but didn't the derogative "Chad" start in the UK?

[-] cazssiew@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I think you're thinking of chav

[-] _chris@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago

To be fair, the only people left on Xitter are idiots

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago

I have to admit that I have not read the Illias or the Odyssey in school, either. We were made read books in school intendet to make children shy away from books, so they won't touch any of them after school ever again.

Luckily I had read loads of good books by that time, so I knew that only a few are as horrible as the ones they made us read in school.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

It does feel a lot like that, doesn't it? Why else would the Bronte sisters be on the curriculum if not to snuff out any interest in literature?

[-] NIB@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

There are basic versions of these stories with big drawings, mostly made for kids. Basically manga. When i was a kid(in Greece), 35 years ago, i had this

https://www.stratikis.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/iliada-nea.jpg

This is Iliad and it was cooler than Odyssey. Badass dudes with almost divine powers fighting other dudes and entire armies on their own, while Gods are taking sides and fucking things up. Isnt that shonen.

Odyssey's ending was cool though, even if it was a bit sad.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I first read the classic translation by Schwab when I was ten or eleven.

[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 9 points 16 hours ago

may nigel farage further dumb down the island people.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The Illiad was like the Bible before the Bible.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Only in that it was widely published but there are others too like the Epic of Gilgamesh.

[-] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 hours ago

The Illiad was like the ancient Greek Bible because it was used to provide behavioural guidelines and views common to all Greeks. It was a text central to any Greek's education. How does a leader act? Read the Illiad. How are battles waged? Read the Illiad. What is the relation between humans and gods? Read the Illiad.

Alexander the Great was known to carry a copy of the Illiad with him at all times, and many philosophers routinely used excerpts from it to illustrate their points. And people would reference it like we reference things from the Bible in the west (Judas, turn water into wine, cross to bear, turn the other cheek etc)

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[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 20 points 20 hours ago

Wait.. some people don't know the Odyssey?

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago

As an American, I am going to dine on this single example as if it disproves the idea that we are insular and provincial hicks for the next decade.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 21 hours ago

nah, it just proves that brits are as stupid as you are, which is, tbh, is not a surprise /s

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

The /s is unnecessary, I can assure you we are stupid and nobody should be surprised.

[-] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

it's /s because someoune could've implied that i consider americans and brits as the winners in this competition, when in fact, the only competition they're winning is the one for the most villanous politic actions. USA is a leaéer here at the first glance, but brits literally created USA, so that kinda makes all of the USA villainy into a subset of the british one

edit: i was wrong, the best villains are the french, bc William the Conquerror is the reason brits exist, and therefore also the reason usa does

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 14 points 15 hours ago

We had Brexit. We can’t say nothing.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

As a layman, i believe you have a stronger private school presence, which tend to specialize in order to differentiate. But I might be wrong because I have limited information on the topic of British education.

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago

We have a strong private school presence, yes. Trouble is it leads to privilege and people get on in life not cause they’re clever, but cause they wear the right school tie.

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[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 196 points 1 day ago

It's wild that the U.K. doesn't teach the Odyssey, I thought their whole thing was stealing other peoples' culture and pretending they owned it now.

[-] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

I did study it at school but had to take Classical Civilisation for one of my GCSE options. Our default in English Literature was a Shakespeare work as previously mentioned (Merchant of Venice for me). I also recall studying An Inspector Calls?

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[-] mhague@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago

The world doesn't revolve around America, but you'll see idiots in Bumbfuck, Romania talking about Soros and wokeism. It's got to be exhausting.

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