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Summary

Donald Trump has vowed to pardon non-violent January 6 rioters when he returns to office, sparking hope among his supporters.

Many convicted for their roles in the Capitol attack anticipate their lives will improve once pardoned, viewing the event as government repression rather than an attack on democracy.

While Trump supporters view the pardons as a means of justice, critics argue they could embolden future violence.

Critics warn that mass pardons could set a dangerous precedent, with 61% of Americans opposing the move.

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[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 2 days ago

I won't have a lot to enjoy from here on out in the USA, so I'm going to enjoy every moment of these idiots realizing that Trump will never actually lift a finger to help them now that he doesn't have to.

I will eat my fucking hat if Trump actually pardons these people.

[-] noride@lemm.ee 47 points 2 days ago

Tough to say for certain. There are zero political consequences for him now in pardoning them, and it will really 'own the libs', so I think there's a better than 50/50 chance he does it.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago

There is also absolutely no reason for him to do it.
If he does it, it will be purely out of spite

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Well, he does have a lot of spite.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

So it's back to 50/50

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

He might pardon a couple of them just to get a sound bite out of it, but once he's shown that he "won" by pardoning a couple he won't give a shit anymore and he'll leave the rest to rot in prison.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Yeh, fair point. Getting the last word in

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

He’ll just manage to royally piss off every DC Police Officer who fought (and in many cases were injured , or worse) those self-proclaimed peaceful protestors that were anything but. The last thing he wants is a police force that would turn their back on him when he needs them most.

The big question is whether or not somebody with enough influence in Trumps orbit managed to explain that clearly to him in third grade terms he can understand.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You mean the ones that betrayed him by not stepping aside and allow the insurecction to happen? They'll be lucky if they arent replaced with loyalists in a week.

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I would be careful with that bet. Two of his major qualities are:

  • Narcissism
  • Transactional

If it suits him to free a bunch of people in order to gain power, he absolutely will. He’s also unchecked, so he has 0 risk.

Think of all the Trump stuff Trumpers have. There’s whole cottage industries around this stuff. What is a con man without a mark? Desperate.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's barely under 1000 Jan 6thers in jail. Theres 75 million plus people that voted for him. Your math isn't mathing for the small number convicted and jailed adding up to anything other than pennies in profit if released.

Exactly, Trump is transactional, and he doesn't need anything from this group anymore, so why would he give them anything?

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Those 1000 people are massive evangelists for him. I don’t mean transactional as purely money. If Trump gains value & there’s no risk, why not take it? He gets to look like some benevolent person, he gets more supporters, and they are the most rabid. They’ll go out and recruit more people.

I don’t disagree with you that financially, there really isn’t much gain, but cult power, there’s some to gain.

Can I inquire about your hat if he does pardon? /s

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Can I inquire about your hat if he does pardon?

Unfortunately I only have one hat, and it's the Duke Nukem cap I got when DNF released. I guess I could do worse.


But to your actual point, Trump just has a history of shortchanging people. The whole reason he kept doing rallies outdoors in 2024 was because he owed so much money to so many venues this was the only way to show up and not have to pay what he still owed from 2020.

Trump doesn't plan on having to run for election again, whether it's because he's dead or because he rapes the constitution and just cancels elections. With no upcoming elections, why does he even need people to like him anymore? I think he's done with that, personally. He likes being feared more than he likes being loved.

I'm just saying Trump's history says once he's done, he won't lift a finger or spend a penny on you, and will avoid you like the plague. I personally expect that to extend to the Jan 6thers as well.

[-] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Alright then, good points and sick hat. :)

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He might do it just to own the libs, TBH.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

He will because they will ego stroke the shit outta him for it and he will need them if he ever needs brownshirts

I would argue he has plenty of brownshirts available even with those ones locked up.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

I wish I had a country.

[-] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 8 points 1 day ago

So what are the odds of a bunch of democrats storming the capitol?

[-] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 days ago

Next time an insurrection happens, just let it go. Let us see how much damage these lunatics can really do. Police, FBI have spent years gathering these psychopaths and for what? For all of them to be let go in one swift executive action? Psh, the politicians are on their own next time.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Where are we with the people who were smearing feces on the walls of the Rotunda? 💩

Violent? Non-violent? Clinically insane? Just patrons of poo and purveyors of hepatitis C?

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ihhhht wuz ah fulse flaggggg.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

FBI BLM Antifa

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