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Elon is always obsessed with WeChat's model. (For those who don't know about WeChat, it is basically the name of the 'Everything app'.)

Everything in one single point is pretty convenient but has led to a bunch of risks...

Leave a risk that you know in the comment.

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[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

We already have an "everything app", it's called a fucking browser rofl

[-] crowsby@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, uhh we had that in the 1990s and it sucked:

Why do one thing poorly when you can do a whole bunch of different things even worse.

[-] AndreyAsimow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that I would put "everything" in Elon's hands... Feels risky

[-] woshang@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

No one should hand out their 'everything' to anyone

[-] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

I gave my everything to someone once, they said it wasn't enough. Now I only keep it in my hands.

[-] _cerpin_taxt_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sure you're just a grower. She/he doesn't know what they're missing out on!

[-] jossbo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Leafy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Elon is right to understand that the data of a successful everything app (which can only happen by monopoly) will give him vast power in tech. However, after failing to implement one aspect of it in an established market and after removing most talent from Twitter, how will anyone keep falling for his techno-Ponzi scheme?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago

Zombo com is an everything app. You can do anything at Zombo com.

[-] thefattman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The only limit is yourself at zombocom

[-] 001100010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wechat is so creepy. I mean you could just get caught in some misunderstanding of being labeled as a dissident and get cut off from basically all communications.

And even if you are just an innocent civilian, all it takes is one bad hack and now criminals have the data of 1 Billion people.

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[-] Holyginz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Lol, dude can't even run something like Twitter successfully, let alone an "everything" app. Not a chance in hell I would use it.

[-] woshang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was wondering if he would hire someone from China who previously runs "everything" app like Wechat. People should definatly look for alternatives

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If an application has tracking and censorship software that is tied to a country's government, then chances are I'm not gonna use that app, especially if China's government is involved. This is why I hate WeChat.

Besides, an "everything app" basically just defeats the purpose of having an app icon collection on your home screen. I like how colorful it looks, and I don't want that to be taken away.

We're just getting further and further into dystopia at this point.

[-] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Why even have an OS for the everything app? What if we made the app itself into an OS?

Also: Does an everything app contain itself?

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Convenience and marketing will always win at the end. We're heading that way anyway. People use Apple Pay and Google pay and don't think for a second what it means. Other forms of ID are going that way too. People want ecosystems without having to lift a finger. Just let big brother take care of everything.

What, you want to talk privately? Use cash? What do you have to hide?

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[-] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't trust Musk with anything, let alone everything.

As soon as a company offers 'ease of use' for anything, it'll try to get everything it can get their hands on and use it to their own advantage.

[-] kryllic@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

He's a decade late on that. I don't see people wanting one app having that much of their information being constantly collected in the background. Then again, millions of people agreed to Threads' data harvesting so...

[-] woshang@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Most of the are celebrities, they make money from giving up their privacy right.

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I imagine most celebrities have primary accounts and people who manage them or at a minimum two phones for that reason so they are only giving up what they want

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

It seems like what he wants to add is mainly real-world identity and payments. The US already has an 'everything app' that has social media, shopping, classifieds, identity and payments - facebook.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago

Shit, I deleted my Twitter account when Musk bought the company. I’m definitely not going to create another one to use X.

[-] woshang@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Where did you go, if not twitter

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Nowhere. I mainly used it for news, I just don’t use Twitter as a news source anymore.

[-] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Why would you put yourself into an obvious dead end street? People already have problems leaving whatsapp for better messengers. People have a hard time quitting their amazon-addiction, even though there are many alternatives out there. Imagine you put all your eggs in one basket (messenger, shopping, payment, etc.) and lock down everything in one app. This might work for autocratic regimes, that push this idea of an app, as it makes it easier to control everything, but in the western world we like to be individualistic people who like to choose for themself, stand our or diverge from traditions.

Currently in the west, there are multiple shops you can go to. If you happen to have a bad experience (product not at all like the picture, quality, etc.) you can give the app and the shop a bad review and never come back and try one of the others apps. If you have a bad experience inside a Everything App, where also is your communication with friends and the payment... how do you punish the app? No go to the shopping Tab anymore? Review a bad Tab on the appstore? If you leave all the tasks (shopping, communication, payment, etc.) separated in different Apps, you as a user keep more control. You can switch payments without affecting your communication. Imagine getting banned from paypal, whatsapp and amazon at the same time, because the TOS of this everything app. If you are not living in a autocratic state, you can choose (and should choose) and vote with your experience on what service is good and what service needs to go. If you live in an autocratic state, you might possibly can not choose from too much options, as your autocratic regime is trying to push this single apps, that they can control, into every sphere of your life. And if you do use something else, the autocratic state will find ways to make this a reason to have a closer look at you. Don't stand out. Do not diverge from the rest of the citizens. Or else you get the treatment. - I see how Elmo wants this tool on his belt.

The Everything App stand diametrical against the individualistic person belief and an open market. If it were such a great thing, people would have done it successfully in the last 15 years of App development in the West. But there is none of these Apps. Because it is not fitting in a democratic state where services are federated across the market and not vertically implemented in a single app. Its why we have homescreens where multiple apps can coexist next to each other. Is the best homescreen, a single page, with a single app, where when you go inside, then only the variety of possibilities opens up (calendar, calculator, messenger, shopping, etc.) or is this variety of possibilities not already happening exactly there: On the homescreen, in seperated apps.

He can try. But he will fail. Like he failed twitter.

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