[-] linja@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I think this is more accurately vice signalling.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Ok, I think I see the problem. To me, MSb (Most Significant bit) isn't an ordering at all, just a label that one particular bit has. To specify an ordering, you'd also need to say whether that bit comes first or last. This concept doesn't exist in computer memory because, as previously mentioned, bits in a byte aren't ordered in memory. I was thinking of the individual digits in a field (each Y in YYYY) as separate bytes in a word, so endianness order makes sense to think about; separate fields in this analogy were contiguous like struct fields. I think my mental model is sensible, since ISO 8601 is fundamentally a sequence of characters, which are all in an absolute order.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Right, and in data transfer every byte can be placed in an absolute order relative to every other. And the digits within the respective fields are already big-endian (most significant digit first), so making the fields within the whole date little-endian is mixed-endian.

I have iterated this several times, so I worry there's a fundamental miscommunication happening here.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I think I almost understand what you're getting at. If I do, it's uncodifiable. You can't draft an organisational system with a clause that no one is allowed to use logical fallacies to defend it.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Right, and the most significant bit of the whole date is the first Y in YYYY, which we can't put at the end unless we reverse the year itself. So we can either have pure big-endian, or PDP-endian. I know which one I'm picking.

Your literal statement is also just wrong. The solitary implication of endianness is byte ordering, because individual bits in a byte have no ordering in memory. Every single one has the exact same address; they have significance order, but that's entirely orthogonal to memory. Hex readouts order nybbles on the same axis as memory so as not to require 256 visually distinct digits and because they only have two axes; that's a visual artefact, and reflects nothing about the state of memory itself. ISO 8601 on the other hand is a visual representation, so digit and field ordering are in fact the same axis.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The irony is a real foreigner could probably do maths better than them.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I remember 5280 despite being Australian because I saw that stupid mnemonic tweet. I remember the SI prefixes because of xkcd.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Except no because the digits themselves are still big-endian. That's nUxi.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

If I'm not meant to think about it until understanding emerges, then that means it should be immediately understandable without thinking. It is not.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I think it is not. Certainly most projects aren't solely personal utilities, but devs working for fun rather than profit will almost inevitably produce something skewed towards their own tastes and skills. See: the presentation of any FOSS graphical app vs a paid equivalent.

[-] linja@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

That's a pretty weak definition. "Legitimate" especially is a vacuous term, and every form of democracy ever proposed is (theoretically) "accountable".

[-] linja@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

They really need to patch this. It's wreaked unbridled havoc on the meta.

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