I don't know if this was a test run or an actual operation of some kind, but Russia evidently wants to carry out more of these attacks, as they have been mapping out these cables for years now, and have recently been running national internet outage drills.
I'm not very deep in the conflict
It would seem that you have not even done some preliminary research on the subject.
Trying to have a discussion with someone who has very little knowledge of this issue is not an easy task, nor is simplifying it.
It is a long and complex history, and whoever you talk to is going to have different answers about how long it is, what happened, and why it happened.
While nuance and much important additional information is lost in Wikipedia articles, they are a very useful resource for understanding the main points, and they also tend to be one of the least biased sources. If you are genuinely interested in learning more, this is a good place to start:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
If you actually do read through most of that page, I will be very surprised if your take away is still "everyone is the asshole here."
I'm not from the US but I know that I would really struggle morally to cast a vote for either party.
Yes, voting for Trump because of Palestine is stupid, but I can easily see how voting for the party that keeps sending money and weapons, and supporting them in the UN, while pretending to ask them to "be more careful about killing civilians", would not be very desirable either.
The US electoral system is absolute dogshit, but in my opinion the Dems lost this election all by themselves.
Edit: are the downvotes because you disagree, or because you're upset that I'm right?
Relations between Ireland and Israel have long been strained because of Ireland’s stance on Palestine.
Yeah it's all Ireland's fault that relations are strained 🤦♂️
That's my belief versus the mostly confirmed accounts that are based on limited evidence.
Describing it as factual was my mistake, but I did so because of how incredibly likely I think it is.
There's no way anyone can know that without a full and transparent investigation being done, which Israel did not allow to happen.
That said, there are many indicators that they did a significant amount of damage.
One example:
All the burned bodies and cars from the festival that were somehow burned by Hamas (with molotovs?), and ~~definitely not~~ by Apache helicopters equipped with hellfire missiles. Oh... except for the handful of bodies that turned out to be Hamas fighters. THOSE ones were killed and burned by hellfire missiles, but the Israeli bodies were burned by Hamas. And so were their cars of course. Let's not worry about why the cars were trucked off far away, shredded, and compacted before being buried. Definitely has nothing to do with making it harder to investigate what actually happened to them.
Much of this info has been available for over a year now.
I don't think it's hard to imagine how tanks, artillery, and apache helicopters would do more damage than rifles and a handful of RPGs.
You just have to look at the incinerated cars and bodies from the festival to see how much damage the helicopters did there.
A few more recent sources, including some Israeli ones:
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231021-israel-settler-israel-forces-killed-hostages-not-hamas/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rTQcjyhPOIk
Their plans were clearly to capture and ransom them. Even Israeli witnesses testify to that, as well as to the fact that the IDF did the vast majority of damage.
You need to read more about this subject from a *less biased source.
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markko
joined 6 months ago
No way in hell I'd want to be a farmer these days. That shit seems like the most stressful career possible.
Something like gardener/groundskeeper looks good to me though.