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I've had several people comment on the way I tie my shoelaces. I can't even remember how to do it the "normal" way, but I use that knot that takes about half a second where you make both loops at once and pull them through each other.
That's a better knot as well. Holds together better comes apart without risking turning into a small tight knot and is balanced to keep one lace from getting more fatigued.
It’s the same knot (square knot) unless you’re comparing it to someone who ties their shoes wrong.
Edit: also, the quick-tie knot OP is talking about is called Ian Knot or Ian’s Knot. It’s a square knot but tied faster.
Either a square knot or a "granny" knot will work. A lot of people don't know the difference, but it's actually a pretty important distinction in different types of rigging because a square knot is so much stronger and more secure.
Granny knot will come untied easily so it only kind of works. Most people who use granny style probably double it up because they get sick of re-tying their shoes all day.
I knew about square knots from when I was a kid but didn't make the connection between those and shoelaces until much later in life. My hands still aren't used to reversing one direction from something I'd been doing my entire life.
I guess I should be better at it by now but I rarely wear shoes tight enough to require tying them. Maybe that's my weird thing for this thread.
The risk of the knot becoming a real knot (it's more like a pair of slip knots normally) is from the loose end winding up going through one of the loops before you pull it. If you pull the one that went through the loop, you get a tight knot. If you pull the other one, it won't be so tight. And that can still happen with this improved method.
https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm
Also relevant: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/grannyknot.htm
I used to triple knot my shoes and they would still come untied. Then I switched to the ian knot, and my shoes haven't come untied by themselves in forever.
I'm gonna try that, thanks
I've been doing that for ~15 years and almost no one has commented on it :<
That's probably better knot anyway. Most people don't even realize they tie their shoes with a so called granny knot. The loops are supposed to sit horizontally, not vertically or at 45 degree angle.
Mmmm, not really. It's better for round laces, but the regular knot holds better in general.
My point was that many, if not most people do the regular knot wrong.
Ah, yes that's true.
I've always disliked tieing my shoes but I just made myself learn this knot and I love it
I only tie my shoes the first time I wear them. Double knot it and just slip-on/off.
Heathen.
Yours is apparently the proper way.
I do that with round laces, it's much better for them than the standard. Tried showing it to my Dad once, and he could not wrap his head around it.
That's how my dad taught me, he calls it "bunny ears." Funny enough, it took me a really long time to learn to tie my shoes because both my mom and dad were trying to teach me, but they didn't realize they use different methods and I was so confused.
I did that knot in front of a shoe saleswoman and she commented she had never seen anyone do that before. Asked me to show her again how I did it.