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While I understand that others have different priorities with phones, I've never quite understood why Lemmy is so enraged by the absence of a headphone jack...
I prefer wireless headphones. When I had wired headphones I used to regularly yank my phone off the counter when cooking, or try to walk away from my desk while tethered by a cord.
If I did ever need to use wired headphones, using an adapter isn't that big a deal to me. Although I'd probably have to use a magnetic adaptor so that when I inevitably forget that I'm connected to it and walk away, my phone/entire desktop doesn't come with me.
Usb-c to aux, not sure if there is a similar chord with the apple chord, but it was only a couple of dollars and works with my aux car jack.
So adapter is extra is what you are saying.
Better add that shit to the list then.
Good stuff.
Bluetooth beacons are a thing. You can effectively track someone through a store to the point where you can recreate their steps all the way down to the product level.
Also, wireless headphones are just another thing to keep charged and are uncomfortable to fall asleep when wearing while the dongle means I can either charge or listen.
I get that removing the port helps with waterproofing and one less hole to clean and yea, it is 100% a personal choice.
The waterproofing argument -- which I have heard before -- makes no sense at all to me for a TRS audio jack. You can seal the port off from the rest of the phone. Okay, dump it in water and you will short contacts, but TRS connectors get shorted anyway every time you're plugging or unplugging something into them. They're pretty much the one connector that is guaranteed to need to be able to handle having the contacts shorted.
The "space" argument, that it consumes a lot of space in the phone, that I get.
It's absolutely a personal preference. Some people don't care, others do. A 3.5mm headphone jack is a requirement for any phone that I buy along with a micro SD card slot. It's getting more and more difficult to find devices that meet those requirements but that's a choice that I make. Along with unlockable bootloader and the ability to be rooted, but that's a whole different issue.
3.5mm headphone jack just works with anything you plug into it and it has for decades. No pairing, no charging headphones or earbuds, no latency, better sound quality, no having to choose between charging the device and having audio output OR find the right OTG dongle.
A lot of people don't care about this at all and that's fine. But for those of us who do I really hope that these options don't disappear entirely just to sell more Bluetooth earbud garbage and cloud storage subscriptions.
Yeah, I find most wireless headphones sound like hot garbage compared to decent 20$ headphones (Koss KSC75, moondrop chu's). Any actually decent sounding pair are usually expensive as hell.
I tried really hard to like wireless, I have had like eight different pairs ever since they really came out and disliked all of them. They'd always break, all of the time, constantly. Out of those, like 4 or 5 of them broke in less than a year. Most decent pairs of earbuds and headphones will have replaceable cables, and I know how to solder to repair those that don't.
Nowadays I completely avoid them, they're just e-waste disguised as earbuds. I work in computer repair and these things are 9 times out of 10 completely impossible to repair.
I will give USB the benefit of providing power, which permits for active noise cancellation. You want ANC on headphones that have a 1/8 inch TRS plug, you gotta get power somewhere, like a battery. But, yeah, kinda sucks to either tie up the only port on the phone or deal with (even a small) passthrough adapter hanging off the headphones.
If you could get a case designed for your phone that had an embedded USB hub, pass-though USB port, MicroSD USB Mass Storage adapter, and audio adapter, would you tolerate that? The angle of the headphones jack might be constrained to come out of the left or right of the case.
I agree that the difference is small, but it feels like enshitification and an anti consumer choice to me and that frustrates. Typing this from my jackless phone 🤳. I have DAC dongles everywhere.
It's not the jack itself, but rather what it represents. The ability to simply and easily do what you want with a device you paid potentially thousands of dollars for, and it was taken away for no better reason than to save a few cents, or mimic a more successful company that wanted to save a few cents. Similarly, easily swappable batteries. The battery is likely the first component in a device to die, and when it does fuck you, buy a whole new phone. I used to never put my phone on a charger; I had two batteries and I'd just switch them out every morning, easy and simple. That feature was taken away by greedy megacorps who refuse to make a product that I actually want to buy, instead I have to settle for a worse product that costs more than it needs to and does less than what its replacing.
People who are on the move a lot. Yeah, USB batter packs are a thing but that's far more annoying than not. I also second the person mentioning already having wired ones.
If rather replace a $5 pair of earbuds every year or so than a $30 pair of wireless earbuds that lasts a year if you're lucky and only works if you remembered to charge them. Also, I hate Bluetooth because its unreliable and a pain in the ass to get stuff to actually connect. It takes 1 entire second to plug an audio cable into an audio port. You can't beat that.
I prefer wired headphones (perhaps after bad experiences with infrared headphones), and used to only want phones with headphone jacks...
But the latest one I got doesn't have one, so I had to buy an adapter. Honestly, it doesn't seem a big deal now I have it? I can keep the adapter in the same case I keep my earbuds in, and they're decently cheap.
Infrared? Isn't that LoS based? Seems awful for headphones.
It was! If you broke line of sight or the transmitter lost power, it would just play static at a loud volume.
Even if you don't use wired headphones, others shouldn't be forced to share your lifestyle if they have another preference. This is just selfish