Nobody ever claimed “everybody”, just the “enough”, and the data actually reflects that. Even if they didn’t vote, Clinton would’ve won.

I voted for Stein for 2016 (before we knew what we know now), and I voted for Howie Hawkins in 2020. But then I lived in New York, and I knew my vote wouldn’t matter, so I could vote my conscience without threatening the concept of democracy. This year I am in Florida, and I damn well fucking know I’m gonna vote for Kamala Harris and a straight democratic ticket below that. Because I understand the consequences of my actions.

Anybody who cares about Green policy should vote against Trump.

Nader is a mich better example. If 99% of the Florida Nader voters had stayed home and the remaining 1% voted for Gore, he would have won even with the Supreme Court's decision to stop the recount.

But then I hear so many Trump voters would have voted for Bernie. So who is the real spoiler?

Imagine supporting a political party so unappealing to a majority of the population, that you resort to blaming them when you don't win.

The first time I voted, I cast it for our green party, not because I wanted them to win, but because I knew they wouldn't win and my vote would have no effect on the outcome. I haven't been paying much attention to politics at that point in time so I didn't have an opinion on who should win. I just wanted to vote to understand how the process works.

Sure and maybe by not voting these people could've said "I wasn't foolish, I was just lazy!"

But unfortunately for them, Jill Stein was on the ballot and they foolishly voted for her and here we are.

That part. They are repeating 2016 talking points again.

This tbh, if we don't want Green votes, make better reasons to them to vote the way you want them to vote. They vote green because they don't agree with the other candidates. They should fix that instead of complaining about it.