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CEO of UnitedHealthcare fatally shot outside of NYC hotel, source says
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"A person familiar with the matter told CNBC that the suspect was wearing a black hoodie and black pants and was carrying a gray backpack. It’s believed the suspect used a firearm with a silencer." So this was a hit? I'll grant that a lot of people might have wanted to take this guy out, but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen?
First reported in NY Post: https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/ceo-of-unitedhealthcare-fatally-shot-outside-of-hilton-hotel-in-nyc-in-possible-targeted-attack-sources/
Anyone who has been denied necessary healthcare by UHC or anyone who's loved one died because they were denied necessary healthcare by UHC would have a motive.
Died, disabled, or went through other unnecessary, avoidable pain and suffering. It's... quite a pool of candidates.
It sounds like he was receiving regular death threats and considered it par for the course.
but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen
Well there are 330+ million people on the United States so…
Yes, but not all of them use UnitedHealth.
Me: Nope, never seem anyone like that before...
Officer: What about the guy in this picture wearing a black hoodie and pants that you appear to be staring at in this security video?
Me: Yeah... doesn't sound familiar.
Officer: Sir, that was 5 minutes ago...
Officer, I'm sorry, after re-examining the picture I am now sure I have seen that man multiple times.
Once a week for almost my entire life on Sunday's, and one time when I got tired walking on the beach he gave me a piggy back ride.
Suppressors require a federal tax stamp from the ATF to purchase, but yeah everything you said is true.
I would like to know more.
I mean sure you can forge the stamp, but the stamp is basically a proof of purchase for your “I don’t have to go to jail over this item” - it’s the associated paperwork and registration of said stamp that matters.
Could it fool a cop or nosy rangemaster? Sure. Will it pass any actual scrutiny when the ATF tries to authenticate? Lol nope.
You show your tax stamp to range safety dudes? Lmfao
If an old Boomer RSO approached me asking to see my tax stamp when I'm shooting my suppressed gun, I would tell them to fuck off because they aren't an authority to enforce the law; they're not the ATF, they're not the FBI, otherwise I could ask to see their social security card. Because they are simply gun safety babysitters, and regular fucking dudes with no real authority other than being allowed by the business owner to ask you to leave.
Me having a tax stamp is literally none of their fucking business.
No, but they can remove you from the range...
If they ask? Yes. Because I didn’t go to the range for a dick measuring contest with someone who can eject me for whatever reason they desire. Never gotten heat over a brace or P&W job, but I’m also not trying to catch a trespass charge over ‘muh rights’ argument with a rangemaster.
They do have a valid interest in not being involved in a federal firearms crime on their property. I’ll respect that, and their dumb rapid fire/holstering/etc blanket rules. Sounds like you’re the kind of person those blanket rules were made for.
I have a large enough property that I haven't shot at a privately owned range in decades, so having a rando come and ask me for my personal tax documents is kinda weird.
It kinda sounds like he did this with at least the bones of a plan. And aren't silencers relatively easy to improvise, if you don't need it to last?
Wait time is like a month if you have it in your own name, 3ish if using a trust.
The "extra background check" really isn't any more indepth than the one for buying a gun either.
Silencer by no means implies this was a professional hit. Lots of people have em these days just for the hell of it
Huh. Tax stamps must have really changed. It used to be a 7 month wait, minimum, when I was dealing with them.
Been like that for a couple of years at least.
They switched from hardcopy to taking electronic and the backlog disappeared.
It takes like less than an hour to process one, same as waiting for a check to get a gun. The backlog was from moving hardcopies around.
Imagine thinking someone committing a crime obtained their weapons legally. Sure it’s possible but you’re just jumping to conclusions.
The only people who don't hate the US insurance industry are a) those who benefit financially from it and b) those who haven't been fucked over by it yet. Granted there are a lot of people in group b but all of them will eventually leave it.
So you're saying they have a very limited pool of potential suspects?
I'd be okay with them never finding out.
Yah know, in this modern world there are so many things that are immediately knowable, and yet even looking up something knowable takes time. I encourage people to rest comfortably in those tiny moments of unknowing, for the time during which they last. Savor the mystery.