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If the democrats are so sick of getting swapped out maybe they should field some decent candidates.
Unless your idea of a good candidate is George Clooney or Oprah than this isn't a problem that can be fixed with 'better candidates'.
Those answers make me unreasonably angry. The absolute stupidity is astounding.
Those aren't my idea of good candidates either. My idea of a good candidate would be someone ethical, that wants to improve life for our citizens, that values constitutional values and the rule of law. I am not sure such a person exists in the US that is capable of winning the presidency.
In your picture above, just because a few morons vote for silly reasons doesn't invalidate the value of having actual good representation.
There's value in good representation, but it's just not going to help us win elections so it's moot.
The most ethical, constitutional, kind of loving candidate in the world is worth jack shit if they can't win an election.
Sorry, I would not prefer an unethical, unconstitutional, unloving candidate to win. Actually, I think that's exactly what we did get.
The people in that image voted for Trump. They're describing Donald Trump.
Your idea of a good candidate is useless when Voters are morons that think Trump is the good candidate.
'Believe in Christ'? How the fuck do people see that?
If voters demonstrated one thing this year, it's that the decency of the candidate is utterly irrelevant.
It's not relevant to Republicans, but it got Democrats to stay home.
Staying home was, in effect, a vote for indecency.
There was nothing wrong with Harris except seven million people who voted for Biden weren't ready for her to become president.
It is more like 250k in 4 states that flipped.
Harris got about seven million less votes then Biden.
In states that didn't matter. In every swing state but Pennsylvania they had record turnouts. She even beat some of bidens support in those states and still lost. 7 million isn't the story it is she didn't really gain 250k votes in 4 key states and lost.
I didn't enjoy what she did as district attorney. I would also argue if she was not electable in 2024, then she doesn't meet the bar of a "good candidate". Now her viability is irrelevant entirely, unless she plans to run in 2028.
I think it is more of a reflection of the voters and non-voters.
Harris, like Hillary, was put forward without the express will of the people - she didn't win a primary over Biden, because there was no primary elections.
Arguably the "will of the people" was exercised through them supporting the Democratic party. The Democratic party put forth a new candidate in accordance with their own guidelines, which were in place prior to 2024. This was no coup, it was the Democratic party putting forth a candidate as they may. This is not new. They can put forth anyone they wish.
Kamala was put into place by receiving the most votes during a virtual roll call: https://ballotpedia.org/Democratic_delegate_rules%2C_2024
If one supports the Democratic party, surely one would sanction the process by which Kamala became the presidential candidate, as they were acting in accordance of their own party guidelines, which were in place long before this election. If a president would have withdrew prior to Biden, the exact same process would have taken place. A similar action took place in 1972 when VP nominee Thomas Eagleton withdrew. None of this is new.
The "will of the people" was Joe Biden, who won the Democratic primary quite handily. However, the Joe Biden people thought they were voting for wasn't the Joe Biden we actually had, as there was a very deliberate effort to hide his declining health by the party leadership. Hence the whole reason they had to change candidates, once it became too obvious that Biden wasn't fit to serve another term as president.
So while the Democratic party still followed their processes and guidelines by ultimately putting forth Kamala Harris as their candidate, it's not like they had to do it because Biden withdrew due to some freak accident or something like that. You can't really sanction what they did when the whole thing is rooted in the party leadership deliberately deceiving people.
I think the bigger problem is that she is a non-white woman.
Nah. Their masters wouldn't like that.
Or what? What are we going to do about it if they field another pro-corporate candidate?
The same thing people did this time -- vote Republican or stay home. I think the outcome of the latest election makes it clear how ineffective the democrats are. By a lot of metrics, Donald Trump was not that successful of a presidency, and despite that, the democrats were not able to field anyone that could defeat him.
facts. all their candidates suck. Kamala Harris was an embarrassment and the people who still support her after such a catastrophic failure are the exact reason she lost: echo chamber. out of touch with reality. delusional.
This is a false equivalency. Harris wouldn't send migrants to concentration camps. She wouldn't attack our allies. She wouldn't cut social security and VA benefits. Instead she wanted to help normal people like you and me.
Trump constantly praises dictators such as Putin, Xi Jinping, Kim Jong-Un and has a history of sexually assaulting people.
She said she wanted to help "normal people"... yet she didn't list a single useful policy prescription. In fact, when asked if she would do anything differently, she said she wouldn't change anything from what Biden did... despite Biden NOT helping normal people like you and me.
Honestly I liked her. I thought she'd make good decisions on the hot seat. But I think she let her advisors push her to the right, into a milquetoast corporate campaign. And that's what killed it.