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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 days ago

This is what happens when governments rely on a private corporate service for public announcements

Every government should just adopt a fediverse instance of some sort, maintain it and push that to everyone to use as a public announcement service. That way it would not be controlled, manipulated, lost or disconnected if they had full control over it all the time.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 18 points 3 days ago

This is a solved problem

Shit catches fire in Australia and we get text messages.

[-] shani66@ani.social 0 points 3 days ago

Our phones in America get amber alerts and extreme weather notifications too, so idk what this article is on about

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Someone elaenin the thread posted a screenshot. The Amber alert in CA basically just said it was an alert and a bit.ly link to Twitter for info.

Why the fuck doesn't California actually include the info on the alert itself like I've always gotten anywhere else? That's the actual question. Every alert I have received in AZ has had all relevant info for the alert in the alert itself, never just a link elsewhere.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Did you try reading it?

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 3 days ago

ignoring for a second you can turn off push notifications so that's a stupid contact method in the first place they also just linked to a 3rd party site instead of sending info directly over the system.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

WEA messages aren't push notificationn, nor are they SMS messages like Australia uses. They are a separate system. Our phones are configured to pop up the message over everything, and they default with a loud, unique alert tone.

Some WEA messages can be blocked; some cannot.

They aren't supposed to be used to just send links; they are supposed to send the actual message. This is the first time I've heard of an Amber Alert that didn't include details about the suspect and victim.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 3 days ago

They aren't supposed to be used to just send links

looks like that is the only real issue here then

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Don't worry they spam everyone's cell phones with deafening alerts at 3am too.

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

Thankfully all but the shitty national ones can be turned off on most Android phones.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah but government doing anything besides feeding corporate parasites is communism.

Can't have that... We should be paying Twitter a service fee for them allowing our government to communicate to peasants.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago

The government uses EAS and WEA to disseminate alerts. Both are government-operated systems that are not controlled, manipulated, lost, or disconnected by third parties. The AMBER alert in question was delivered via both EAS and WEA.

The Xhitter avenue (along with every other major social media platform) is what they refer to as a "secondary distributor".

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

According to the article, that was not done in this case, hence the article.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -4 points 3 days ago

Yes, that is the claim I'm looking to verify. Is that claim accurate?

You can view past alerts you have received. On android phones, Settings > Notifications > Wireless Emergency Alerts > Emergency alert history. (or just search for "Amber"). One screenshot can easily prove or disprove the article's claim.

Again, if this is actually what happened, it indicates a problem not just with CHP, but also with EAS and WEA for not ensuring the requested alert message included the emergency content.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Post with a screenshot someone posted elsewhere in the thread. California sent the alert out in the shittiest way possible. It's not the system itself, it's how California is choosing to do it. I've never had any emergency alerts here in AZ be remotely this useless.

https://lemmy.world/comment/14302173

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

Post with a screenshot someone posted elsewhere in the thread

Yeah, they were responding to me. :)

I've never had any emergency alerts here in AZ be remotely this useless.

Ohio's include descriptions of suspects, victims, vehicles, locations, etc.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Ohio's include descriptions of suspects, victims, vehicles, locations, etc.

Same here in AZ. I'm sure there are times photos are posted to Twitter too or something, but that's separate from the actual alert info.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

Except the primary distributor doesn't have any actionable details.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago

Yep! I finally got confirmation of that when someone posted a screenshot of the alert.

What a bunch of chucklefucks.

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