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Reposting this from here from 2023, after I stumbled across it tonight and it hits hard.

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I love my smart TV. I love the way it takes a long time to boot up because it’s trying to refresh the advertisements on the home screen. I delight in the way it randomly restarts because it’s downloaded an update without asking me, each of which makes the TV slower and slower with every subsequent install. I adore the way it buries the apps that I want to use, and that I use without fail every single time, below the apps that it’s being paid to promote and which I have never touched in my life and would never use without the cold metal of a glock pressed hard against my sweating temple. I am infinitely thrilled by the way the interface lags constantly, due to the need to have one thousand unnecessary animations rendered on hardware ripped wholesale from a ten year old phone. I feel myself borne aloft on wings of pure joy when I am notified that my data will be collected and analysed to determine my usage patterns. Even now I am writing this from a field of beautiful flowers and soft luscious grass as I lie and look up happily at the bright blue sky, smiling happily to know that this is the future of technology

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago

best thing is to never hook 'em up to the internet. provided the manufacturers don't all start requiring internet to 'set up' a tv.

next best thing would be a revert of firmware or a full 'reset' of settings; if possible. to return it to an 'out of box' state--then above, never connect it to the internet.

replacing a cheap streaming device is a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing the tv once the software gets obsoleted for whatever reason.


my coworker (and boss, technically) just casually mentioned that her inlaws 'updated' their tvs when they were visting over the holidays. i cringed so fucking hard because i have the same model, just smaller--so i know what happens.

they had just recently hooked-up wireline internet and could actually stream stuff now.. so i had just given them a new streaming stick to use instead of connecting their now 3 year old tv to the wifi.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 12 points 2 days ago

You'd still have the TVs default OS running on a potato. I'm thinking more along the lines of replacing that with a bare bones old school OS that was responsive.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 points 2 days ago

True, but a 3 year old TV with original firmware would have been pre-adpocalypse. My never-connected LG boots pretty quick when it was last on an HDMI port before turning off.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

I have heard that some TVs attempt to connect to every WiFi they can find using default credentials even if you never connect it yourself

[-] dan@upvote.au 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

default credentials

Wifi doesn't have default credentials any more... These days, there's legislation (at least in California) that requires default passwords to be randomly generated, but it's recommended to have no default password at all and instead prompt the user for a password when setting up the device.

That's why some access points have the default password either printed on the box or on the bottom of the device.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago

They'll just connect via yourneighbors' smart tv

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

i wonder if they were dumb enough to just use algorithms based on mac or the default ssid or something.. so if you knew the scheme and knew the password composition (characters used, or wordlist, whatever), you could come up with the 'default' password for a wifi point.

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 2 days ago

Companies are probably doing the easiest thing, and it seems easier to make it completely random. I can imagine something very basic like a giant spreadsheet of all the devices being produced, and running some formula to enter a random value into every cell in a particular column.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

but then they have to keep that data--and you just know they keep all those passwords. (support call... q:i dunno what the password is/can't read the sticker. a:gimme x or y off your unit, and i'll look it up for you).

but if they do it programmatically, all they'd need is the code to recreate any password if given the constant used to create it (the ssid or mac or sn, for instance).

hopefully they would use something that can't be obtained off the wifi broadcast, like the sn on the unit.

[-] dan@upvote.au 1 points 2 days ago

Hmm, yeah, good point. It could be based off a hash of the serial number or something similar.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah, that makes sense, thanks!

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

provided the manufacturers don't all start requiring internet to 'set up' a tv

That's an important caveat. And it appears that increasingly manufacturers are adding that requirement.

[-] cass80@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Yup. I bought a roku tv last Nov for a spare bedroom. Thing would not operate without a wifi connection and roku account.

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