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"Our business model isn't sustainable unless we remove worker rights"
luckely everyone has become wary of what these tech bros startups are all about. Tech companies like this just add extra steps to a preexisting business and pride themselves of being innovative
But but but, there's an app, surely that's worth all the downsides right.
Don’t forget consumer protections!
Uber somehow managed to convince people that it’s not their fault if their drivers don’t follow traffic laws, drive intoxicated, and assault people.
If you can't pay your workers ethically then your business doesn't deserve to exist. Simple as that.
Yes. These people are not entitled to be business owners. If they can't hack it, then get out of the way for the people that can. But don't worry, business owners - I'm sure you'd be perfectly happy being a gig worker for another company instead, right?
Tell that to the shareholders
If your business model requires the economic exploitation of your workers, your company possesses no legitimate reason to exist.
Similar to what I always say: if your company's survival relies on tax evasion, you shouldn't have a company.
This might not be universal, but here it doesn't even require it.
Back in 2017, Uber tried to expand to my home province and tried to get us to change our local regulations regarding rideshare (it boiled down to Uber being required to call its drivers employees and to function like the pre-existing taxi services).
Local government doesn't budge, so Uber decides that it doesn't want to come anymore. Within the year, a local alternative pops up that complies with the regulations Uber tried to fight, and they're still profitable 6 years later.
It's not that Uber isn't capable of paying their employees living wages, it's that they can earn more money if they don't.
"Since 2021 in the UK, Uber drivers are considered ‘workers’, which is not full employee status but does mean they receive sick pay and annual leave.
The firm has gone further than UK competitors including Ola and Bolt in worker benefits.
The number of drivers on the UK platform has doubled in recent years."
Go fuck yourself uber.
Honestly that's good, who cares ?
Having just returned from Australia on vacation, I'll say it was extremely inconvenient when Uber wasn't in a region. We even managed to get stuck in a small airport because there were no regular taxis, and the local Taxi app simply didn't work for the required 2fa with a foreign phone number (though the UI for selecting country was there, no text was ever received).
Uber is great when available while traveling. Makes life so much easier.
That said, I fully support regulating them to have to support their drivers as any other employer. Fuck them and their repeated threats to their ball and go home. Force them out of every market until they concede and restructure.
Um, you do realise that the only reason you couldn't get a normal taxi was because Uber's business model was to destroy the industry and take over?
... yes, they destroyed the taxi industry in a remote airport where they never rolled out service to. Right.
Oh boy 😂
Edit - I should explain
Uber never rolled out service to the airport because it wasn't profitable enough, that would be the only reason
The few remaining taxi drivers still in work after Uber destroyed their industry won't go to the airport, for the same reason Uber didn't. But now the taxi drivers are even less likely to go there as they're forced to go where the money is, wherever that may be
Let's face it, if you ever used Uber to save yourself a few dollars, it was at Uber's expense; they made a loss on it
Now the taxi drivers have gone, they have a monopoly and have quadrupled their prices
As they say, there's never one flake of snow that thinks it was responsible for an avalanche
Your point was obvious. It's still awful and makes bad assumptions on taxi availability and demand in an a rural area. Your entire argument seems to be based on city economics of supply and demand at scale.
No worries, keep using Uber and Airbnb
Fuck uber.
As a European, all I can say is good riddance, you greasy fuckers.
So people will go back to fairly-paid taxi drivers. Not seeing a problem here.
Oh no! Anyway...
EU please do what California utterly failed to do!
Well......bye
Yes. Fuck off then.
Good, if someone is selling their labor they should be protected as an employee.
good.
Oh no- anyway.
Okay, byeee!
Good fuck em
*brakes
Oh no!
Anyways...
Well... bye.
When will this happen?
all the better
Oh no!
Anyways, I heard it was sunshine this weekend?
Wow, what an interesting technology this is!
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