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Sudo is coming to Windows 11 (devblogs.microsoft.com)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by starman@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052 to the Canary and Dev Channels.

Insiders in the Canary Channel will receive Build 26052.1000 while Insiders in the Dev Channel will receive Build

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 13 points 8 months ago

"Let's give our new command line app the same name as a popular linux command even though it's not the same app and behaves differently. I'm sure our users would appreciate it when they have problem with the app and trying to search the solution later."

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

To be consistent with Powershell's command structure, they should call it "Get-Access" or something similar...

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Given the horrible verbosity of PS utils, I'd expect they just abandon subtlety and call it Substitute-User-Do-Operation

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Can we truncate it to Get-Ass?

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[-] Nyfure@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

afaik they also alias common linux/gnu commands like curl.. but the syntax isnt like curl at all

[-] OmnislashIsACloudApp@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I definitely spent a frustrated 45 minutes trying to figure out why curl wasn't working when it was supposed to be supported in PowerShell.

then I hit tab a couple of times and noticed curl.exe was an option, that works exactly the same as I had expected with original syntax.

they do this to a lot of things though a lot of common commands end up being an alias to a powershell command with a specific option set that doesn't always line up

[-] starman@programming.dev 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Because we are Microsoft, the company known for giving its products perfectly reasonable and not confusing names"

[-] Deebster@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think Google's the worst for this. Examples such as the browser Chrome, when browser chrome has been a thing for a long time. Go, a very common verb and keyword and also now a programming language. Not to be confused with their Go Links, which was a URL shortener. And then there's all the ones they either rebrand or retire and/or replace.

Perhaps they want confusing names because they think other search engines can't handle the ambiguity.

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

To be honest, other programming languages aren't named any better

Pascal is just a common name, Rust is a common noun, Java is an island which you cannot find by searching for just its name, Python's a snake, C# is a musical note and C is just a letter.

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[-] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I wonder which sudo Bing will default to find 🤔

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Phil Collins, probably.

[-] Saff@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

They’ve had a real problem with names recently. I wonder if the laid all the creative people off in that company. Miss me with this “new outlook” “new teams” “teams for work and school” just think of a new name for each app for the love of god…

[-] esc27@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Not a new problem. Many years ago they released a server app to download and deploy updates to a businesses computers. They called it Windows Update Service, or WUS. A bit later they changed the name to Windows Server Update Service (WSUS). The FAQ on the name change noted the old name “did not accurately reflect the value of the software”

[-] kometes@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

alias sudo=runas

Wow, so exciting.

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I bet you not even sudo could remove edge. edge is like the breathing lungs and thinking brain and balls of computer

[-] javasux@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

HTTP is stored in the balls

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"This action is forbidden. The incident has been reported."

And then MS sends goons to your house to break your legs

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There are lots of 3rd party mods like AtlasOS that can remove edge.

[-] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

You used to be able to >winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge

But the problem is Edge would still come back every time Windows had an update.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I hope the EU DMA update fixes that.

It supposedly allows you to uninstall more stuff.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Let’s hope it’s not region locked, or if it is, maybe at least trivial to bypass.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

And, knowing Windows, won't let you do as much as a real sudo would anyway. There are so many f-ing things that even Admin is not allowed to do on a Windows box, it is simply annoying. "Oh no, you cannot remove Edge! This would threaten the stability of the universe!"

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago

Sudo is the "please" of Linux.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 8 months ago

for me, it's "per my last email"

[-] Curdie@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Do ssh-copy-id next please.

[-] Phrey@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago
[-] Curdie@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

It is an ergonomic and familiar solution for users who want to elevate a command without having to first open a new elevated console.

Yeah Microsoft, how exactly is it familiar for Windows users? 😜

[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 8 months ago
[-] Glitchington@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

They are tired of right clicking Command Prompt to "Run as Administrator". They've been doing it for decades, they can have one tiny piece of QoL improvement.

[-] Liome@pawb.social 3 points 8 months ago

Windows is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

[-] HarriPotero@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Do you remember when Microsoft tried to patent sudo?

Pepperidge farm remembers.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Finally. Although, I bet it's going to be one of these looongass PS OO commands, with an alias tied to it.

Probably Escalate-RegularUserPrivelige and smack a mandatory -Confirm argument in there as well, just to be annoying.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 8 months ago

Although you have to admire that PowerShell at least attempts to define a common set of verbs and vocabulary.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

The trick to powershell is to make incredibly liberal use of tab completion to speed yourself up. Or make aliases for commands you use really often.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I get that it can be a pain to type long commands out the first time, but if you're using a terminal or an editor without tab completion in 2024 then you've chosen to do things the hard way.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 1 points 8 months ago

Sudo rm -rf c: --no-preserve-root

[-] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago

More like sudo rm -rf C: --no-preserve-C-drive

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Imagine opening up your case and the C drive just fucking vanished

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