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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 220 points 6 months ago

As an organization, they are actively and intentionally interfering with electoral politics. Their lifetime appointments were designed to remove them from that dynamic, but they have decided to bypass that principle. The structure of our federal government is designed to deal with problems like this by having the other branches check them when they step out of line like this. Unfortunately, neither of the other branches have shown any desire to take action. As a result we are currently caught in a self-reinforcing death spiral of anti-democratic corruption that will eventually undo the union unless something changes. What a time to be alive.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 84 points 6 months ago

I think we are supposed to be that something that changes it.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

Peaceful protesting only works for so long.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 46 points 6 months ago

That's where the second amendment actually does come in for once

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 25 points 6 months ago

If you don't have enough people to win the war by picking up pens and voting, you definitely don't have enough to win by picking up guns and shooting.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Depends. You might not even need to shoot. Those anti mask fuckers got what they wanted by protesting while armed to the teeth.

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[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

It’s the literal reason for the 2nd amendment, there is no arguing that fact.

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[-] cmoney@lemmy.world 126 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

How can we word this so tRump gets his way but also so Biden doesn't get immunity and when will I get another luxury vacation or motorhome?

Clarence Thomas probably.

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[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Stephen from Django

[-] Andonyx@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Obligatory: Uncle Tom was actually a good guy. The idea that he was some kind of traitor or such comes from a crappy adaptation of the book. In the actual book he dies to save some other slaves.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Oh no it's just straight delaying his trial until after the election. They have no problem writing a 100 percent ironclad opinion on presidential immunity and then denying that immunity to Biden for reasons pulled out of a fever dream.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 75 points 6 months ago

I don't know why anyone is surprised. All of the court watchers who aren't MAGA told us SCOTUS would sit on this as long as they possibly could. Which, assuming they're still coloring inside the rules, means the last ruling of the season. And they'll drag out all the other cases too so it doesn't look weird. In fact on Strict Scrutiny they've been warning that the court is dropping a bunch of no contest decisions because they're expecting one big drop with shitty partisan decisions that have no logic beyond the personal politics of the majority.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 months ago

That the charges weren't made until late last year is also a failure, the whole process has been unreasonable long.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That was part of the game though. If any part of that process was sped up for him the Republicans would have ammo in their accusations about the trial. And rich people have long made sure the justice system goes slowly.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

I mean the reasons exist but if the system cannot rapidly respond to attempts to destroy it then those attempts will succeed.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 69 points 6 months ago

MAGA SCOTUS justices in this case, MAGA judge in the classified docs case, MAGA prosecutor in the Georgia case ... good thing we hit him with four cases at the same time.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 55 points 6 months ago

Fucking seriously. How stupid are we that people would see exactly what you laid out and just say "hmmm, oh well the justice system is just slow or something." Except its only with his cases that are in front of Republican appointed "judges."

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

In the case of the supreme court it is painfully obvious. It's because Thomas likes to live like a billionaire and Alito hates gays.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 62 points 6 months ago

Subpoena them one by one and confront them about specific issues. For instance Thomas and all those billionaire friends who keep dropping money in his lap. Congress committees have the power to do this.

Let sunlight into the dirty little acts of corruption and impeach. Hit them instead of just complaining all the damn time. Also, six or seven year term limits. Then every single president will get a chance to appoint a couple and the bench makeup will be more balanced.

[-] eric5949@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Congressional subpoenas mean absolutely nothing after Trump's term though. They'll just ignore then and what, you expect Merrick Garland to arrest a Supreme Court Justice for contempt of Congress? If it even gets that far.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Not so, I believe that Steve Bannon is going to the lockup for ignoring his in a week or so. I don't fancy that the supremes will want to risk that. It just takes will to apply the law. That's it.

Of course, the Dems will huff and puff and do nothing.

[-] eric5949@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Of course, the Dems will huff and puff and do nothing

That's my point, Merrick Garland of all people, Mr I don't want to appear political so I'll slow walk trump, isnt going to arrest a Supreme Court Justice mere months before an election if he ever would in the first place.

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I think that arresting a Supreme isn't going to happen. For a start the legal machinations and appeals will take at least two years. But, a subpoena is at least fighting back, and a threat. What is the alternative? Hand wringing?

The Conservatives wake up each and every day actively trying to destroy the American republic. Do you think that overturning Roe was just luck? That was a 25 year process. I'm not advocating violence, but just not taking it when your balls get stomped. There are shocking things that can be done. Boosting the bench to overcome the current bias, bringing in terms limits, and subpoenas for corruption. The subpoena won't necessarily lead to impeachment or arrest, but it will bring out every little dirty detail in public. Do you think that's not a threat to a dirty bench?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

People need to go listen to the confirmation hearings of the older judges where they said they considered Roe v Wade settled law that would take quite a lot to over turn. And then read the opinion that places medieval catholic church law above our Constitution. It should be required. With highlights and margin notes in comic sans red marker because apparently that's fun and attention grabbing.

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

If Gym Jordan doesn't have to comply with a congressional subpoena, what makes you think Clarence Thomas will?

[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I'm not sure of the person you refer to (sorry, not American) but surely that's the problem. Not applying the law equally. Can a common murderer or thief decide that a legal direction doesn't apply to them?

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Jim Jordan (Gym is a nickname from years ago when he allowed students to get molested by a school doctor) is a representative from the state of Ohio who was involved with the January 6th plot to overthrow the government.
When they investigated it, they subpoenaed him and he refused to show up. So far it's been 3 years and no action has been taken whatsoever.
He helped plot a coup, he's STILL in power, and he ignored a subpoena from Congress with no consequences whatsoever.
He ranks considerably lower than the Supreme Court does in the grand scheme of things and if they're not going to force him to comply, they won't force any of the federal justices to comply.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 62 points 6 months ago

Lula's Brazil had Bolsonaro handled within six months. Banned him from running until 2030 over his January 8th coup attempt in 2023.

The failure to respond in 2021 doomed us all.

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

The system doesn't want to save it's self, we are on a clear path towards fascism.

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[-] DevCat@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

Instead of "rotten", the title should use "completely predictable".

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 months ago

Like leaving a mayonnaise container to age in the sun.

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago
[-] aniki@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

This country will not.

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[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Cause the coup has not ended yet.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 24 points 6 months ago

It won't end until they succeed. This isn't stopping with trump they will continue until they have permanent control. They can see the writing on the wall and that the numbers don't look good for their future in government so they need to solidify that control.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Yeah, typical fascists.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

The “hand is not hidden”. It’s out in public with a raised middle finger to democracy and our way of life.

[-] Kaput@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

Please USA, don't go full Nazi. That would be quite inconvenient for your neighbors, and the world probably.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

You have been permanently banned from c/Conservative.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it's a real mystery.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 14 points 6 months ago

Why should we be surprised? As a nation, we've shown the justices that there are no consequences. It seems they are not beholden to anybody.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

It’s intentional specifically to buy the orange turd as much time as they possibly can, maybe delay the trial until after the election.

Which is incredibly stupid.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


For those looking for the hidden hand of politics in what the Supreme Court does, there’s plenty of reason for suspicion on Donald Trump’s as-yet-undecided immunity case given its urgency.

But it’s considerably more drawn out than the schedule the court established earlier this year on a challenge from Colorado after that state took Mr. Trump off its presidential primary ballot.

The court is a busy place, though the justices are completing decisions at the second slowest rate since the 1946 term, according to a recent article in The Wall Street Journal.

And yet Mr. Trump’s lawyers continued to take the untenable position, in response to questioning, that a president who orders the assassination of a political rival could not face criminal charges (absent impeachment by the House and conviction in the Senate).

In 1974, the Watergate special prosecutor squared off against President Richard Nixon over his refusal to release Oval Office tape recordings of his conversations with aides.

Even if presidents enjoy some immunity for official acts, plotting to remain in office while continuing to question the results of an election they clearly lost isn’t one of them.


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