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The DNC is launching new strategy to needle Trump over not debating.

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago

Spoiler: his voters don’t read and even if they did, they don’t care. They will just find another excuse

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 months ago

Can't save the cultists, yes, but Independents do care.

And even though Indies are a minority, they are still the ones who decide the election outcome in every swing state.

So, good strategy by the Dems.

[-] aniki@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

I have yet to see these so called independent voters. No one is 50/50 on Trump.

[-] aalvare2@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Yet to see them on the internet, or in-person in one of the swing states?

Your take is valid, but less than 50,000 votes in swing states separated Trump and Biden from a tie in the EC in 2020. I could believe that there were at least 25,000 “actually swingable” voters in the right states out of 150+ million voters in 2020, and I could believe the same for 2024.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

While I agree with your statement and analysis, I’m just baffled at these swingable voters. I mean, what else would it take to swing someone away from a rapist, convicted felon, insurrectionist, and openly confessed wannabe dictator? At what point they say, you know what, there’s no comparison here?

I doubt there are any true independents here. Only embarrassed Republican voters who are too shy to admit that they will still vote R - hence calling themselves independents to save their face.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Also you aren’t targeting the voters. You’re targeting him. Either he bites and debates which both us and his advisers know will go terribly for him or he doesn’t and you can go on a bolder attack further down the road in a medium his voters give a shit about.

[-] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago

I get your being facetious but local print media is heavily propped up by older people

[-] morphballganon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

The don't tread snek crowd doesn't read, but the seniors wearing the MAGA hats, wheeling around oxygen tanks do.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

What?

They're probably the only ones still reading hard copy newspapers...

[-] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 44 points 2 months ago

Dude, the amount of firepower Kamala has given to the name of democracy is just incredible. I was apprehensive about dropping Biden but she's REALLY given the party new life.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

The ads should simply say, in a big font. “It’s weird that Trump won’t debate Kamala Harris”..

[-] commandar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

This is really the point to open a second front and start openly, explocitly calling him a coward.

Weird is effective at highlighting how far outside the mainstream these people are.

Coward directly pokes holes in and deflates his strongman image. It hits enthusiasm within the cult.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Coward is actually negative, it can turn off some people

Weird is much more neutral, being weird isn't necessarily bad, it just makes people think about stuff the other person does that they wouldn't do themselves

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Scared maybe? Fear is normal, you can even say “Most people are afraid of public debating, one prominent individual suffering this fear is Donald Trump”.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

They should also go after him for avoiding the republican debates, and say he's afraid to debate because it would make his mental decline more obvious.

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s an early form of website. They used to cut down trees, mash them up into a paste, dry those into sheets, and then take toxic inks and illustrate advertisements for televisions and furniture. Some of them had a section specifically devoted to comic strips, which many people called “the funnies”.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Odd they would advertise televisions and furniture… what you use to sit and consume a different form of media.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It’s true. Anthropologists disagree about the purpose of this. It’s almost as contentious a topic as the great Less Filling vs. Tastes Great schism.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I think I'd do it. Relatively cheap, and old people show up to the polls.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's still a bit easier than advertising on daguerreotype postcards or player-piano rolls.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I’m all for shit-talking Trump, but I’m really good with not having a debate. Again I say - the rapist traitor belongs in prison, not on television as a potential leader. It’s a farce that he should be.

[-] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Fun fact, there are millions of people completely unaware of the fact that Trump is a rapist traitor

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Things like televised debates help perpetuate the myth that he’s not

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

How about a televised debate in which the subject that he's a rapist traitor is raised?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Counterpoint. I'm pretty sure everyone's going to know he's a traitorous rapist who's been convicted of 34 felonies by the end of any debate with Harris.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

There are more effective ways to promote that. Even if the corporate news has refused to do their jobs.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

If you want a really great political novel, "The Porkchoppers" by Ross Thomas is for you.

It's set in the Nixon Era and concerns a Union election. One candidate is named Sammy Hanks. One trick his opponents people play is to print out 10,000 bumper stickers that say "Sammy Hanks Sucks." 5,0000 of them are placed on cars in Hanks' neighborhood.

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