(Yes, of course I know that's not the Enterprise-D and that TNG came out in 1986, but you try making a better debunking joke.)
Also keep in mind that the astronauts communicated with Earth by radio. Anyone with even 1920s radio technology would have figured out that the astronauts weren't broadcasting from the Moon.
We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?
Not sure I understand. Are you agreeing that the moon landing happened but you also claim the footage is faked? Do you have any reasons to support that? You mention something about radio technology from the 1920s, but the moon landing occurred nearly 50 years later, so I hardly see how that is relevant.
Edit: I misread your comment. Thanks to @turmacar@lemmy.world for pointing it out.
No, they're saying regardless of if the signal was encrypted or whatever format it was in, anyone with a directional antenna could triangulate where the signal was coming from. If there were only a repeater on the moon that NASA was transmitting to that was then sending the signal back, that would also have been able to be determined.
Both the Russians, who had a vested interest in embarrassing the US, and every other amateur and professional radio operator on the planet agreed that the moon landing was being transmitted from the moon.
Ah. That makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!
If we could fake the moon landings, we also could have faked the Soviet Union.
We've always been at war with Eurasia
We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?
That's always been my number one reason why the moon landing was definitely not faked. The Soviets never caught wind of it between 1969 and 1992? Come on.
Plus we left retroreflectors on the moon, that we can shoot laser beams at and get a return bean back.
its used to measure the drift of the moon away from earth.
the lunar reoglith is not reflective enough to bounce a signal back (and its been tested to death)
We know it reflects light, so that just tells me we haven't used a big enough laser yet :p
Faking the moon landing would have been a massive coverup requiring the cooperation of at least one foreign nation. (Australia, because of Parkes)
During the Nixon administration. Nixon couldn't even cover up one little burglary.
Nixon's downfall was created by the CIA because they did not get along.
It would have required so much work it'd be easier just to land on the moon.
My favorite debunking is an old YouTube video called "moon hoax not" where a filmmaker explains that the due to technology limits of the time, faking the multi-hour live broadcasts in slow-motion, which millions of people were watching, would be impossible without there being telltale signs of it being spliced film (the splicing, film grain, etc.). Since slow-mo video (distinct from film; TV broadcasts were video) at the time could not play back more than a few seconds of footage, at most, it would have to be high-speed film played back at normal speed. Assuming you could find or make a high-speed camera fit to task. While the first landing had awful video quality, later missions had much higher quality and the film fakery would be impossible to completely hide. People these days massively overestimate the video (and film) technology that was available in 1969. (IIRC. It's been years since I've last rewatched it.)
Edit: TL;DR: Perfectly faking the multi-hour uninterrupted video broadcasts (i.e., either inventing slow-motion video that can last hours, or perfectly passing off a multi-hour film as video) in slow-motion would have been significantly more difficult than sending humans to the moon with 1969 technology.
That'd be it.
Honestly it's super interesting to watch even if you know the moon landings happened for the history of tech he talks about.
Yes!
Audio proof: https://youtu.be/8rlDTK6QI-w
Oh, I know this video!
I remember playing it for somebody, and you could tell they were trying so hard to disagree with it in their head. I imagine they still believe it was fake, but it was funny.
Flawless 4K special effects have been available for over 100 years, but the government’s been hiding them!
Re-hoaxed :)
Everyone knows the moon landing was faked at a secret soundstage on Mars!
I do find it amazing that it was literally easier to send humans to the moon than faking it in 1969
Like, isn't that an astonishing fact?
isnt there something about a smart watch today ahving more computational power than what took nasa to the moon, too?
Fake moon landing, aliens built the pyramids why do some conspiracy theories insist on robbing humans of their monumental achievements. My guess is that people who create and share conspiracies like those are too dumb to realize that other people have different knowledge than they do.
It's probably because most of the people that believe these things are impossible can't even chew with their mouths closed.
To be fair star trek was impressive for the time
Most of the time anyway...
In my opinion the rough edges give the show charm and character, theres a certain magic to imperfection
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