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[-] pagenotfound@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The premise of time travel movies is a person being able to be present at a different time to their original timeline. So I guess you could say a Groundhog Day type of movie is a subgenre of the time travel genre.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Okay, maybe sub-genre is the proper phrase I was thinking of. Thanks!

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago

Edge of Tomorrow.

Plot - Earth is invaded by aliens. Tom Cruise gets a power where if he dies, the day starts over. So, he keeps pushing forward in the warzone, and if he dies, he knows how he'll get attacked and adapts to it.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

It's essentially a single player shooter game from the perspective of the player character

[-] db2@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

It's a pretty decent movie too.

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

My wife relented on her "no Tom Cruise movies" stance because he dies 200+ times in it.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Imagine if you could retcon all his movies to do that 🤣

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

"No, we have Sean Bean at home."

Sean Bean at home:

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I only have this one upvote, but it is yours.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes. Except for the last 1/4.

[-] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

I'm confused, do you think this is a request for time loop movies?

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes?

Edit - Oh, sorry, I completely mis-read it. OP just means to ask if they are called time travel films or not.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think it depends on the method for the loop, and how time itself plays into the plot.

Like, I wouldn't say Groundhog's Day is a time travel story. But Deathloop (the game) is a time travel story. The main reason for this is that Deathloop explicitly tells you that the loop is caused by a time machine device, where as Groundhog's Day could be interpreted as Bill Murray having died and is now in Hell or Limbo.

The way you escape the loop in Deathloop is to get all the looping people to die and then destroy the machine. In Murray's situation in Groundhog's Day, the solution is to... Be a better person?

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I'd say Bioshock Infinite and Arc fit your criteria

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 1 month ago
[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Looked it up, it was neither: Arq.

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Mickey7@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

excellent list. Not on the list but really enjoyed was a movie with Kurt Russel "Touchback". But more time travel vs time loop

[-] Steve@communick.news 10 points 1 month ago

I say no.

Time travel stories are about going to a different time.
Time loop stories are repeating the same time.
It's really that simple.

Time loops are anti-time travel really, as there's no movement in time at all.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

predestination is a mix then? it's a loop, but selected time periods.

what about time crimes?

[-] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 month ago

Haven't seen it, but sounds like it. Time travel can certainly be used to create loops.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

What about stories about time travel that ultimately form a closed loop? There's one that has people moving forwards and backwards through time, yet forms a closed loop at the end: >!Dark!<

[-] Steve@communick.news 3 points 1 month ago

If they're using time travel to create a causality loop, that's different than a time loop.

Time loops usually reset causality, accept for those actually experiencing the loop iterations.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure that it can be clearly delineated as a time loop or a causality loop, it's honestly a mix of both - though you'd probably call it a causality loop, as each "instance of a person" only experiences the loop once.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A closed loop story creates consistency.

Groundhog loops are different each loop

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

I think we have to consider it different. In Back to the Future and Looper, one could travel to a past where another version of oneself exists. In Groundhog Day and edge of Tomorrow, the character travels back to become that version of his self again and again. The character can remember and learn, but isn't cloning himself.

[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I say yes. It's one of my favorite genres (if you can call it one) and definitely includes loop-based plots like Groundhog Day and Primer. But I also enjoy the Terminator Series and Back to the Future and others that don't really loop that way. I suspect most fans are similar. It's hard to imagine enjoying one premise but not the other.

Also: https://xkcd.com/657/

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

predestination

time crimes

triangle

caddo lake

add those to your list

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Time travel

Looper

Donnie darko

Next

Bill and Ted


Time loops

Source code

Palm springs

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

hadn't heard of some of these, will have to check them out thanks

[-] sircac@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Well, when the loop takes place there is a travel in time taking place… but not as in the standard time travel films.

I think is important to point out that in the Groundhog time loops the travel is only of the memories or the information, there is no energy-mass traveling (though information is a kind of energy, let me skip physics here), and the traveler at the beginning of the loop has not carried anything from the future but the memories of the previous loop, did not age or suffered physical modifications (there may be exceptions, sure).

So I think that is a kind of time travel, but a sub-genre where the travel is less material than in the typical time travels.

[-] cajunflavoredbob@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Infinite Isekai

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Here’s one: where do you put things like The Long Earth where it’s not time you step through per-se, but all the possible futures starting from the beginning of the universe?

I really want to see someone make that series into a movie.

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

That's a parallel worlds story. There are many movies and shows about travel through parallel worlds. Sliders is the first that comes to mind.

[-] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Constellation

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Netflix categorizes them that way...

[-] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I mean, time-travel stories typically involve traveling by way of some mechanism be it a spell, wormhole, tear in spacetime and etc. The end goal is usually traveling from one point to another with a purpose. Characters can travel back and forth. Everyone usually remembers each encounter.

Time-loops, like in Groundhog's Day or Edge of Tomorrow, usually cause people to get "stuck." Some plot device is then introduced to eventually "unstick" them. Only the people stuck in the loop are usually aware that anything is happening.

[-] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

The question is whether a time loop is a form of time travel.

Are they actually going back in time? Or is time itself looping back on itself? These aren't the same cause, though the effects can look the same

So I suppose, conventionally, it can be thought of as a subform of time travel. But from a technical perspective, it may or may not be

[-] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

Naked (2017)

Plot - Rob is caught in a time loop as he keeps waking up naked in a hotel elevator on the day of his wedding. This is a remake of the 2000 Swedish film Naken.

Not a great film, though.

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